[user104658]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

That's not why he's doing this , you act as if Depp's coming through this unscathed or unaffected by all this.

No, his reputation was already damaged and I don’t think he’s doing it “for fun” as someone suggested, I think he’s doing it because he’s bitter/angry.

1) He doesn’t need the money
2) No lawyer would have advised him that it was a good idea/had a reasonable chance of success.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

And she clearly stole the vile bottle idea ,from the movie Gone Girl . Utterly insane & grotesque.

Another “idea you came up with yourself watching the trial” that’s come straight from Twitter.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Another “idea you came up with yourself watching the trial” that’s come straight from Twitter.

You don't quit do you , it's nothing to do with Twitter.

If Depp is "Bitter" then what is Heard ? . You talk as if he's bullied her into court to shame her , when she's the one making out Depp is a ' violent wife beater', do you not think he's been embarrassed & mocked? . I mean it's pretty character destroying to be seen as an 'aggressive woman beater & rapist ',you can't get any lower than that.

You mention "misogyny" & " sexism", but Depp has been called "old & fat " by Heard & she's belittled him like she's above him . And other people online etc have called him a " druggie" .

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well the misogyny is consistent at least. We Stan a woman-hater. It’s the best look.

Lol.

Is that what you call it, misogyny? Right OK, and what do you call it when most of the time it's the man getting the hate in cases such as these?

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I was referring to the “you might as well stick on a dress and wear a vagina” comment from the lovely chap above. I suppose that’s not misogyny either

No it's not. I don't hate women. All my friends are women.

I just don't believe Amber Heard.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I think the entire thing is heavily infused with underlying misogyny, yea. That’s not the same thing really - misogyny can be subconscious, I don’t think the people doing it actively dislike women, they just don’t realise how heavily they’re playing into the MRA rhetoric or how much they’ve been influenced by the social media narrative in this case.

Thomas C’s comment was not subconscious in the slightest it was clearly and openly anti-women, using “wearing a dress and having a vagina” as a supposed insult. Of course it’s being brushed over because he’s “team Depp”. Everyone went magically blind for a few seconds and missed his post

I'm a gay man and all my friends are women.

I'm not anti-women at all. I'm anti Amber Heard because I do not believe her.

My comment to you was basically saying you might as well be a woman as you're so about all their rights, will willingly throw around that people are women haters in a case where a lot of the time it is the male who is the abuser (statistically).

You'd have an argument with yourself in an empty room though so carry on sweetheart. I'm out xx

[arista]

"I'm anti Amber Heard because I do not believe her."


Nothing wrong with that
TC

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by arista

"I'm anti Amber Heard because I do not believe her."


Nothing wrong with that
TC

Thank you. No biased either, the only film I have watched of Johnny depps was The Tourist which I liked. Pirates of the Carribbean is not my thing.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

No it's not. I don't hate women. All my friends are women.

I just don't believe Amber Heard.

Why did you think it would be an insult to say “I might as well have a vagina” then? The intention is clear enough. You think telling a man that he’s being “like a woman” is offensive. The only possible reason for that is that you believe that being male is better than being female. The comment doesn’t make sense otherwise.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

I'm a gay man and all my friends are women.

I'm not anti-women at all. I'm anti Amber Heard because I do not believe her.

My comment to you was basically saying you might as well be a woman as you're so about all their rights, will willingly throw around that people are women haters in a case where a lot of the time it is the male who is the abuser (statistically).

“Might as well” be a woman tipping your cards again there Thomas, the way you phrase it says it all. I’m sorry that you think Real Men should be MRA’s; I strongly disagree and I’m not about to start apologising for that, or “toning it down” for people in search of a safe space to spread misogynistic social-media-led fake news because they don’t understand (or perhaps don’t care) what they’re being fed. I’m happy to continue providing a counter-narrative on our little platform, you can block me if you like .

You'd have an argument with yourself in an empty room though so carry on sweetheart. I'm out xx

Not another member confused about what a debates forum is for. Maybe we need an explanation at the top?

[GoldHeart]

She claims he hit her "several times in the face WITH CHUNKY RINGS on all his fingers" , yet the photo after the incident has zero marks on her face. And she never got medical help. SHE'S such a LIAR .

[Beso]

She never got medical help because she had engagements to fullfill and her bruise kit covered them up.

But you could still see the injuries when you looked closely. Especially the one when he knelt on her back..

Even 2 other people who supported depp before we watched it together admitted they could see marks on her back.

[Liam-]

We stan Camille Vasquez

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Liam-

We stan Camille Vasquez

She's not taking any BS

[GoldHeart]

Wow taking photos of JD when he was sleeping/ passed out , why didn't she try and help him ?. When he was vulnerable with ice cream spilled on him ,while he's asleep in a uncomfortable position.

why didn't heard try and wake him or see if he's ok ? . Instead of taking photos and texting them to her friends to belittle & berate JD . If he really had a cigarette in one of the photos,why didn't she remove it to prevent an accident.


In the audio clips we can clearly hear him trying to leave before things escalate,he mentions her slapping him in the ear . Heard has gaslit Depp so much I'm surprised she hasn't burst into flames .

[Beso]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Wow taking photos of JD when he was sleeping/ passed out , why didn't she try and help him ?. When he was vulnerable with ice cream spilled on him ,while he's asleep in a uncomfortable position.

why didn't heard try and wake him or see if he's ok ? . Instead of taking photos and texting them to her friends to belittle & berate JD . If he really had a cigarette in one of the photos,why didn't she remove it to prevent an accident.


In the audio clips we can clearly hear him trying to leave before things escalate,he mentions her slapping him in the ear . Heard has gaslit Depp so much I'm surprised she hasn't burst into flames .

The simple fact is she had reached the end of her tether, she took the photos to try and help johnny. It is her experience that when she engages with him whilst out his head on opiates, it is then that he turns violent.

She showed her friend in a cry for help, sending the photo with a caption saying this is what I wake up to, or this is what I have to deal with.

Big johnny got himself in those states, so big johnny can get himself out of those states...why should she try try and keep trying...especially with a man that's way beyond help.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

She's not taking any BS

She was absolutely useless, her only defence of johnny was trying to show amber out to being a liar.

So we are left with Amber's accounts, and johnny, out his head on drink and drugs most of the time, so much so he will collapse in a rooms with his head asleep in a wardrobe whilst his body lays in a crumpled heep on the floor, account...no wonder he thinks hes innocent, the drunk druggie cant,nor will, remember a bloody thing.

[bots]

i think they should each give 1 million to charity in compensation for boring the crap out of everyone

[user104658]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Wow taking photos of JD when he was sleeping/ passed out , why didn't she try and help him ?. When he was vulnerable with ice cream spilled on him ,while he's asleep in a uncomfortable position.

He's not a baby and she's not his mum, ffs! He's got off his face on drink and drugs and probably at the very least said some awful things to her, and she's supposed to say "poor Johnny let's get you cleaned up and get you to bed"? Now I'm sure there are a number of ladies lining the walls of that court room who would absolutely love to take that role (or think they would, until actually doing it for a couple of months) but no one SHOULD ever be in that position in a relationship. She probably took the pictures in order to be able to prove what he gets like at times. Turns out people don't believe her/care even with the photos.

Originally Posted by parmnion

no wonder he thinks hes innocent, the drunk druggie cant,nor will, remember a bloody thing.

I tend to agree with you there Parmy; he's saying he didn't do things on nights that I doubt he remembers one minute of to be able to say either way.

[Beso]

Whats Depp like.."you will never see my eyes again"

He just always had to be in control.

[GoldHeart]

You know what's funny is people assuming that Depp only has support , because we "fancy him" or because he's Johnny Depp "the movie star" . But the reason he's defended is because there's no evidence to show he's a woman beater....which is what this case is about , both of them calling eachother names is not the same as assault.

Why won't anyone explain how Depp can beat her in the face several times ,with heavy RINGS on his fingers,yet leave no marks not even a scratch on her ???.

She had a split lip yet somehow managed to still appear on TV, posing with her mouth as wide as a hippo for a promo photo . A split lip would hurt and be blistered... How did she do this?.

After Depp ripped out her hair and caused 'blood & pus' in her scalp, but again there's no evidence of this.she was even on TV all smiles .

There's no bruises on her back and she even had a backless dress on ,so you wouldn't exactly miss it.

So unless she has incredible healing powers , something doesn't add up with her stories.

And the horrific bottle attack ,is the worst of them all. She claims she was bleeding from her private area. Yet no medical reports ,no witnesses and no infection or scarring.

[user104658]

Don't know what to say really. Yes, in terms of the accusations of physical violence against each other it's down to testimony. For both of them. In terms of what we can actually see an hear though;

I have seen videos of him committing acts of domestic violence. Smashing objects, slamming doors, shouting in her face, grabbing, making threats. This is indisputable; these videos have been shown, these are things he's done. I know some people "don't think that's domestic violence". I disagree. It's intimidation and it's emotionally abusive.

I have seen no such videos of Amber Heard... only a few sound recordings of her "not being very nice". It's not the same thing or even close. The rest of what she's supposedly done? All just Johnny Depp's account.

On balance I believe they've both been aggressIVE towards each other at times, but that Johnny has been the main aggressOR and the one who primarily gets violent (slamming doors and smashing objects is violence) when under the influence. There's videos of it . Not really much else to say.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

You know what's funny is people assuming that Depp only has support , because we "fancy him" or because he's Johnny Depp "the movie star" . But the reason he's defended is because there's no evidence to show he's a woman beater....which is what this case is about , both of them calling eachother names is not the same as assault.

Why won't anyone explain how Depp can beat her in the face several times ,with heavy RINGS on his fingers,yet leave no marks not even a scratch on her ???.

She had a split lip yet somehow managed to still appear on TV, posing with her mouth as wide as a hippo for a promo photo . A split lip would hurt and be blistered... How did she do this?.

After Depp ripped out her hair and caused 'blood & pus' in her scalp, but again there's no evidence of this.she was even on TV all smiles .

There's no bruises on her back and she even had a backless dress on ,so you wouldn't exactly miss it.

So unless she has incredible healing powers , something doesn't add up with her stories.

And the horrific bottle attack ,is the worst of them all. She claims she was bleeding from her private area. Yet no medical reports ,no witnesses and no infection or scarring.

In his wedding pictures he's the one with injuries. He has a black eye, like someone punched him.
I've seen Elon Musk with a similar injury. I wouldn't be surprised if she hit him as well.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

In his wedding pictures he's the one with injuries. He has a black eye, like someone punched him.

Can you link one?

[Vanessa]

That's the one. I don't see any injuries on her. But look at his eyes ....

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