[arista]

"Junior criminal barristers will remain on less than minimum wage."

Yes Slim
they are the Juniors

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by arista

"junior criminal barristers will remain on less than minimum wage."

yes slim
they are the juniors

who get given the legal aid overload

[bots]

it's only illegal immigrants that get legal aid these days is it not?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

"Junior criminal barristers will remain on less than minimum wage."

Yes Slim
they are the Juniors

If they're on less than minimum wage I can only assume it's because the positions are salaried and they end up working far over normal working hours? Otherwise the maths for £13000 doesn't work out... the bare minimum you can LEGALLY be paid for a 40 hour working week is £17500 (and that's factoring in an unpaid lunch hour).

Unless they're under 20, which isn't really possible as they'd barely be out of school.

Again it can only really be trhat they're "effectively" on less than minimum hourly wage because, let's say, they're salaried for a 40 hour working week at maybe £21k but they're actually working 60-hour weeks.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If they're on less than minimum wage I can only assume it's because the positions are salaried and they end up working far over normal working hours? Otherwise the maths for £13000 doesn't work out... the bare minimum you can LEGALLY be paid for a 40 hour working week is £17500 (and that's factoring in an unpaid lunch hour).

Unless they're under 20, which isn't really possible as they'd barely be out of school.

Again it can only really be trhat they're "effectively" on less than minimum hourly wage because, let's say, they're salaried for a 40 hour working week at maybe £21k but they're actually working 60-hour weeks.

According the one of the links branching off from the tweet Slim linked:
The median income for junior criminal barristers inside the first three years of practice is £12,200. For a seventy hour week.

Would anyone be surprised if junior members of (salaried) staff anywhere were made to do unpaid overtime?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by arista

£9,000 a year they are on TS.


Ref: BBC news

I'm not TS.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I'm not TS.

Yes corrected
sorry about that.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

£9,000 a year they are on Oliver


Ref: BBC news

That's not a reference arista, I need a link. I'm genuinely not understanding how they can be be being paid literally less than minimum wage, unless they're working full time on part time contracts, or maybe it's some sort of freelancing? But even then the new-ish "usual hours" rules should make that not really possible.

I'm not saying it isn't happening but I've yet to see anything convincing that explains HOW it's happening. The links seem to amount to "Oh it is, trust me".

I saw something vague about expenses & fees making the "effective" wage X-amount but not what those expenses and fees are.