[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Ah yes

I guess you could also postulate that a child could be born (who would have otherwise been aborted) that goes on to save humanity somehow

I don't think the world can operate on something so "butterfly effect", though... it's impossible. You could equally argue, what if that child is born, grows up and learns to drive, and hits another kid with their car ... and THAT kid was going to cure cancer.

A good illustration I've seen also is ... what if a kid is bullied at school and it wrecks his life and stops him saving a load of lives as an adult. Is that bully now a murderer? But also... what if a kid is bullied at school and that sends them down a life path of wanting to help people and they DO then save a load of lives. Is that bully now a saviour?

Obviously neither are the case... it's just "stuff happening" and you can never really know the cause/effect.

[bots]

its simple, they believe violence will increase against women because women could well be saying no a lot more often

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

its simple, they believe violence will increase against women because women could well be saying no a lot more often

I wonder if whoever makes Durex shares have just gone up?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I wonder if whoever makes Durex shares have just gone up?

There's rumblings about states wanting to ban contraception, so I imagine not...

Not great for condom manufacturers if 26 states start banning them.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There's rumblings about states wanting to ban contraception, so I imagine not...

Not great for condom manufacturers if 26 states start banning them.

the pope was really happy about the decision, so you just know its heading down the catholic road

[bots]

next it will be burning infidels at the stake

[Crimson Dynamo]

ROME (AP) — Pope Francis celebrated families Saturday and urged them to shun “selfish” decisions that are indifferent to life as he closed out a big Vatican rally a day after the U.S. Supreme Court ended constitutional protections for abortion.

Francis didn’t refer to the ruling or explicitly mention abortion in his homily. But he used the buzzwords he has throughout his papacy about the need to defend families and to condemn a “culture of waste” that he believes is behind the societal acceptance of abortion.

“Let us not allow the family to be poisoned by the toxins of selfishness, individualism, today’s culture of indifference and waste, and as a result lose its very DNA, which is the spirit of welcoming and service,” he said.

The pope, noting that some couples allow their fears and anxieties to “thwart the desire to bring new lives in the world,” called for them not to cling to selfish desires.

“You have been asked to not have other priorities, not to ‘look back’ to miss your former life, your former freedom, with its deceptive illusions,” he said.

Francis has strongly upheld church teaching opposing abortion, equating it to “hiring a hitman to solve a problem.” At the same time, he has expressed sympathy for women who had abortions and made it easier for them to be absolved of the sin of undergoing the procedure.

https://apnews.com/article/abortion-...4077f51b15dd04

[Crimson Dynamo]

[arista]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

I know thats just a snap shot but its backs up what I heard someone say a few days ago ago that it is the boomer generation in the US who support abortion, Gen Z and Millenials are anti ...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I know thats just a snap shot but its backs up what I heard someone say a few days ago ago that it is the boomer generation in the US who support abortion, Gen Z and Millenials are anti ...

Support drops with age: The Pew poll found support for abortion highest among those ages 18-29 (67% believe should be legal), compared with 61% of those 30-49, 53% of those ages 50-64 and 55% of those ages 65 and up.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisond...h=54e11abb2f3a

[bots]

basically, the less likely someone is going to need an abortion the more they are against it

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisond...h=54e11abb2f3a

Just relaying what someone who seemed to know what they were talking about said they are pretty young in that tweet

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Just relaying what someone who seemed to know what they were talking about said

Polls don't lie . Although to be fair that's a poll of everyone - maybe it's different in polls of "red states only".

[bots]

there are a lot of violent protests going on around the country

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Victory for life is such bull****, fat cats like him have no idea what it takes to raise a child or what poverty is

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Victory for life is such bull****, fat cats like him have no idea what it takes to raise a child or what poverty is

but that isnt his fault?

poor people have no idea what it is like to be rich and have ever utterance used and abused by the world?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

but that isnt his fault?



poor people have no idea what it is like to be rich and have ever utterance used and abused by the world?

The point is he has no idea what it's like for women and girls in situations so hard they choose abortion

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The point is he has no idea what it's like for women and girls in situations so hard they choose abortion

Does any world leader?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Does any world leader?

No which is why it should be down to the citizens; polls indicate that nearly 80% of US citizens are pro-choice. You’re a fan of democracy LT so why are you so against the will of the masses being implemented?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Does any world leader?

Why is that relevant? He's the one claiming that this decision is a "victory for life" I'm speaking specifically about this man who made this comment

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

No which is why it should be down to the citizens; polls indicate that nearly 80% of US citizens are pro-choice. You’re a fan of democracy LT so why are you so against the will of the masses being implemented?

Then in each state they can vote for a politician who also shares their views and if that person is in power they can change the position

No laws are made from polls

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Then in each state they can vote for a politician who also shares their views and if that person is in power they can change the position

No laws are made from polls

This would rely on politicians being elected based on the single policy of abortions which is obviously not the case. The stats wshow quite clearly that the majority of people are in favour of abortion being legal (at the very least, early tsage abortions, up to 16 weeks) however that doesn't mean they feel passionately enough about it for them to over-rule the other policies they're voting for. You're living in a rather simplictic world if you think voters agree with the candidate they vote for on ALL issues. It's not really possible.

[Niamh.]

You know what else is annoying is I've seen a lot of people post on social media about this saying that basically most people who are "my body, my choice" were pro mandating vaccinations, the assumption that if you think one way on one issue that you automatically think a certain way on all other issues too.

[Beso]

I read this on fb...whilst it makes no sense, it made a lot of sense to me.



Can a 13-year old girl adopt a baby if she wants to?

No. Obviously not, are you nuts?

What about a 15-year old girl? Can she adopt a baby if she feels like it?

Absolutely not!

How about an 18-year old girl? Surely SHE could adopt a baby, right?

Still, no. No way.

What if she’s 20? No longer a teenager. A 20-year old can definitely adopt a baby if she feels like it, right?

Actually, no.

Hm. Weird. Why not? There are 400,000+ children in foster care, why can’t she adopt at least one of them?

She just can’t. You have to qualify to adopt a child. Rigorous background checks, home visits, proof of financial and mental stability, etc. it’s a whole thing.

Cool.

But if she, at 14, gets impregnated by an abusive ex-boyfriend (who shoved her out of his moving car and left her for dead), she must carry to term, give birth and just, figure it out somehow?

Yes. That is correct.

But, she’s only 14 …

SHE WILL FIGURE IT OUT. She should have been more careful. Made better choices.

So, to “punish” her for her poor choices, we force her into motherhood, which we’ve established she’s totally unqualified for? And now, we are suddenly comfortable with a young, traumatized girl, caring for a vulnerable little screaming human being that is wholly reliant on her for survival?

Yes. Absolutely. Such an unexpected blessing.

But …

BLESSING.

Got it. ����