[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Fox are the worst of them all. Where did you get the idea they were great?

I'm not your source of information and I can never be You have to be your own. If you really want to know about the Hunter Biden laptop then you will go look for it. Start with the people who claim they actually have a copy of the laptop.

You posted a vid of someone on fox talking about the laptop which they'd seen. I've done my homework, and still can't find a solid accusation. Just one. The greatest scandal in modern politics, where the side calling for prosecution has the solid evidence, and they haven't made one claim that goes beyond whisper or innuendo.

I can at least tell you of all the crimes I think trump may/not have committed, so I don't think it's a stretch to expect the same with the bidens.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You posted a vid of someone on fox talking about the laptop which they'd seen. I've done my homework, and still can't find a solid accusation. Just one. The greatest scandal in modern politics, where the side calling for prosecution has the solid evidence, and they haven't made one claim that goes beyond whisper or innuendo.

I can at least tell you of all the crimes I think trump may/not have committed, so I don't think it's a stretch to expect the same with the bidens.

This is from the US senate questioning the deputy of cyber at the FBI.

Senator Matt Gaetz sort of indicates what is on it here. I believe Gaetz claims to have seen it and is in possession of.

You can again brush this off and tell me it isn't good enough for you (which is what you will do) or you can thank me for doing a quick, simple bit of research for you because you don't want to, you just want to try and win an argument on Tibb?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

This is from the US senate questioning the deputy of cyber at the FBI.

Senator Matt Gaetz sort of indicates what is on it here. I believe Gaetz claims to have seen it and is in possession of.

You can again brush this off and tell me it isn't good enough for you (which is what you will do) or you can thank me for doing a quick, simple bit of research for you because you don't want to, you just want to try and win an argument on Tibb?

Matt Gaetz isn't a senator for starters, and he's currently under investigation for child sex trafficking, which was started when trump was pres

Of course it's not good enough. It's perfectly clear that the aim is to keep it in the news rather than making direct accusations that can easily be refuted, or maybe not so easily refuted and they could be prosecuted.

If I accuse someone of a crime and you then ask me what crime, if my reply is "ooooh, it's serious, really bad", then you're within your rights to think I'm talking bollocks. all these republicans have seen it, and not one of them has said anything more than "ooooh, it's serious, really bad."

[The Slim Reaper]

If anyone wants to actually listen to hunter talking about his addiction, how much of a mess he's been in, and even the laptop, then here he is.

Youtube video

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

If anyone wants to actually listen to hunter talking about his addiction, how much of a mess he's been in, and even the laptop, then here he is.

Youtube video

Give us some time lines on the video where I need to listen. I ain't got an hour 45 to waste on this.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Give us some time lines on the video where I need to listen. I ain't got an hour 45 to waste on this.

I heard the podcast ages ago, I'm not going through the whole vid to time stamp it. I'm just providing the interview - it's your choice to listen to it or not.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

If anyone wants to actually listen to hunter talking about his addiction, how much of a mess he's been in, and even the laptop, then here he is.

Youtube video

This isn't bitesize tidbits from twitter

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Matt Gaetz isn't a senator for starters, and he's currently under investigation for child sex trafficking, which was started when trump was pres

Of course it's not good enough. It's perfectly clear that the aim is to keep it in the news rather than making direct accusations that can easily be refuted, or maybe not so easily refuted and they could be prosecuted.

If I accuse someone of a crime and you then ask me what crime, if my reply is "ooooh, it's serious, really bad", then you're within your rights to think I'm talking bollocks. all these republicans have seen it, and not one of them has said anything more than "ooooh, it's serious, really bad."

House representive then.

Show me your evidence of Gaetz child sex trafficking? You must have the evidence if you're claiming investigations against him exist? That's how it works, right?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

House representive then.

Show me your evidence of Gaetz child sex trafficking? You must have the evidence if you're claiming investigations against him exist? That's how it works, right?

No, it doesn't work like that. I can tell you exactly the crime he is being investigated for, and that an investigation is well underway with co-operating witnesses. Now you do the same with hunters crimes, and we'll finally be in the same place

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

No, it doesn't work like that. I can tell you exactly the crime he is being investigated for, and that an investigation is well underway with co-operating witnesses. Now you do the same with hunters crimes, and we'll finally be in the same place

I've just posted you a video of Gaetz who claims he's in possession of the laptop and he suggests things about Hunters business deals with foreign countries that could be a national security threat and possibly put Fake President Biden in a position to be blackmailed by those countries.

That's a huge threat to us all in the West.

If Gaetz is in possession of this do you think the deep state would want to smear him with something to take the scent off of them? They investigated Trump for almost all his Presidency with the Russia collusion stuff and it turned out to be made up bull. Is it possible they might be doing the same with Gaetz?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

I've just posted you a video of Gaetz who claims he's in possession of the laptop and he suggests things about Hunters business deals with foreign countries that could be a national security threat and possibly put Fake President Biden in a position to be blackmailed by those countries.

That's a huge threat to us all in the West.

If Gaetz is in possession of this do you think the deep state would want to smear him with something to take the scent of them? They investigated Trump for almost all his Presidency with the Russia collusion stuff and it turned out to be made up bull. Is it possible they might be doing the same with Gaetz?

I watched the twitter vid you posted, and it was nothing more than whispers/innuendo.

I think Gaetz's own venmo evidence probably means that the imaginary deep state doesn't need to get involved.

What I don't understand with you Alf, is that you seem relatively anti-establishment, and yet the right is the most powerful political ideology around, and yet you fall in lockstep with everything they tell you.

The Russia collusion stuff wasn't proved to be nothing at all. Lots of people went to jail, and Mueller - the author of the report believed he'd left it open for Trump to be prosecuted when he left office. Bill Barr shut all that down to protect Trump.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Alf

House representive then.

Show me your evidence of Gaetz child sex trafficking? You must have the evidence if you're claiming investigations against him exist? That's how it works, right?

Representative Matt Gaetz, Republican of Florida and a close ally of former President Donald J. Trump, is being investigated by the Justice Department over whether he had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old and paid for her to travel with him, according to three people briefed on the matter.

Investigators are examining whether Mr. Gaetz violated federal sex trafficking laws, the people said. A variety of federal statutes make it illegal to induce someone under 18 to travel over state lines to engage in sex in exchange for money or something of value. The Justice Department regularly prosecutes such cases, and offenders often receive severe sentences.

It was not clear how Mr. Gaetz met the girl, believed to be 17 at the time of encounters about two years ago that investigators are scrutinizing, according to two of the people.


The investigation was opened in the final months of the Trump administration under Attorney General William P. Barr, the two people said. Given Mr. Gaetz’s national profile, senior Justice Department officials in Washington — including some appointed by Mr. Trump — were notified of the investigation, the people said.

[Read more on what we know about the investigation of Matt Gaetz.]

The three people said that the examination of Mr. Gaetz, 38, is part of a broader investigation into a political ally of his, a local official in Florida named Joel Greenberg, who was indicted last summer on an array of charges, including sex trafficking of a child and financially supporting people in exchange for sex, at least one of whom was an underage girl.

Mr. Greenberg, who has since resigned his post as tax collector in Seminole County, north of Orlando, visited the White House with Mr. Gaetz in 2019, according to a photograph that Mr. Greenberg posted on Twitter.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/30/u...stigation.html

[Alf]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Representative Matt Gaetz, Republican of Florida and a close ally of former President Donald J. Trump, is being investigated by the Justice Department over whether he had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old and paid for her to travel with him, according to three people briefed on the matter.

Investigators are examining whether Mr. Gaetz violated federal sex trafficking laws, the people said. A variety of federal statutes make it illegal to induce someone under 18 to travel over state lines to engage in sex in exchange for money or something of value. The Justice Department regularly prosecutes such cases, and offenders often receive severe sentences.

It was not clear how Mr. Gaetz met the girl, believed to be 17 at the time of encounters about two years ago that investigators are scrutinizing, according to two of the people.


The investigation was opened in the final months of the Trump administration under Attorney General William P. Barr, the two people said. Given Mr. Gaetz’s national profile, senior Justice Department officials in Washington — including some appointed by Mr. Trump — were notified of the investigation, the people said.

[Read more on what we know about the investigation of Matt Gaetz.]

The three people said that the examination of Mr. Gaetz, 38, is part of a broader investigation into a political ally of his, a local official in Florida named Joel Greenberg, who was indicted last summer on an array of charges, including sex trafficking of a child and financially supporting people in exchange for sex, at least one of whom was an underage girl.

Mr. Greenberg, who has since resigned his post as tax collector in Seminole County, north of Orlando, visited the White House with Mr. Gaetz in 2019, according to a photograph that Mr. Greenberg posted on Twitter.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/30/u...stigation.html

Do you find it odd that Maxwell was sentenced to 20 years for child sex trafficking yet not one of her clients have been investigated but Gaetz is fair game for investigation on what exactly?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Do you find it odd that Maxwell was sentenced to 20 years for child sex trafficking yet not one of her clients have been investigated but Gaetz is fair game for investigation on what exactly?

I agree with you completely about Maxwell. The lack of curiosity they showed to protect the powerful is shameful.