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Old 31-08-2022, 01:51 PM #1
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He also would not stand by the strikers, I don't think he said it directly but he said he would not join them.
You've mentioned that you vote tory and love Boris, (I believe you're a former labour voter) so why would you hold being a tory against Starmer, out of interest?

Obviously for folks like me, that's a massive issue, but not for Tories.
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I know people like to mock O-J, but he is 100% correct in that clip, and he works at the Guardian, so he definitely was not a cheerleader for Corbyn. Starmer, actually was, though.
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You've mentioned that you vote tory and love Boris, (I believe you're a former labour voter) so why would you hold being a tory against Starmer, out of interest?

Obviously for folks like me, that's a massive issue, but not for Tories.
Kaz never said anything about Tories? The world isn't split between those who support every single strike, and Tories.

Has he said why he isn't, btw?
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Kaz never said anything about Tories? The world isn't split between those who support every single strike, and Tories.

Has he said why he isn't, btw?
I was asking why a labour leader acting like a tory, is a problem for another tory. I didn't understand why not supporting strikes would make her highlight it as an issue.
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I was asking why a labour leader acting like a tory, is a problem for another tory. I didn't understand why not supporting strikes would make her highlight it as an issue.
When has he acted like a Tory?
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When has he acted like a Tory?
As quick examples, he whipped the party to abstain on the most of the freedom restricting bills the tories introduced (protest/crime), and he's scrapped every single one of the 10 pledges he used to get elected as leader.

He's scrapped his energy nationalisation pledge, which would cost £2-5billion, in favour of freezing prices and paying energy companies over £30billion instead, besides the only policy he's offered being a reduction of business taxes.

He stands against workers, and gives interviews to the sun when saying he never would.
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As quick examples, he whipped the party to abstain on the most of the freedom restricting bills the tories introduced (protest/crime), and he's scrapped every single one of the 10 pledges he used to get elected as leader.

He's scrapped his energy nationalisation pledge, which would cost £2-5billion, in favour of freezing prices and paying energy companies over £30billion instead, besides the only policy he's offered being a reduction of business taxes.

He stands against workers, and gives interviews to the sun when saying he never would.
Okay yeah, most of that is pretty damning

But the Sun thing? I don't really see why trying to reach working class people should be a problem? Sure he said he never would, but politicians do things they say they wouldn't, or vice versa, all the time.
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I was asking why a labour leader acting like a tory, is a problem for another tory. I didn't understand why not supporting strikes would make her highlight it as an issue.
I was just repeating that he wouldn't join the strikes Slim, which Labour think he should do, As a Tory(now) I don't like strikes, but if he wants to be a Labour PM,surely he should be following their policies.
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