[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Sticks

Putin is not going anywhere, he is former KGB so knows all the tricks of Trade-craft

Because people high up in the KGB or Russian government have never been ousted before

[UserSince2005]

I don’t see putin being taken out. The Russian people are just as evil as he is. They love him.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

I don’t see putin being taken out. The Russian people are just as evil as he is. They love him.

that is simply untrue

[arista]

Good on SkyNewsHD
started at 6AM on Ukraine
giving us a proper update


All other stations stuck on Royal reports

[MTVN]

Putin is live now

[MTVN]

Announcing a part mobilisation of the population and referendums in occupied areas of Ukraine

Russia is going onto a full war footing

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Announcing a part mobilisation of the population and referendums in occupied areas of Ukraine

Russia is going onto a full war footing

forcing all of your people's men (18-60 age groups) to fight for you, sending them to their deaths very likely


is going to backfire on Putin i think, since he's already been worked against by some other members in the government, i don't think they'd agree with practically sending all men to their inevitable deaths

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

I don’t see putin being taken out. The Russian people are just as evil as he is. They love him.

that's so not true


and Putin is getting more cornered now with all honesty, he really doesn't know what he can do anymore, and sending all your nation's men in a fight to the death in that warzone is the worst thing you can do


he should if he was still fit to be president (which shows he clearly isn't), recognize a losing fight and focus on doing the right thing, help out Armenia against the Azeri's (if he really genuinely wants to fight nazi's then he should fight azerbaijan, because those are the real evil basically)

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Announcing a part mobilisation of the population and referendums in occupied areas of Ukraine

Russia is going onto a full war footing

i don't think that's anything new, they started calling up reservists months ago and coercive referendums are no indication. What it all shows is that the war is going badly for him so far. The media are now openly discussing how badly it's going and his speech wont help that

[Nicky91]

Ukraine is Putin's waterloo because they are backed by the west (rightfully so of course)


if Putin wants to do some good again for his russia's reputation, he should go into war with azerbaijan, since they are currently a more dangerous threat out there (you might piss off Erdogan then but tbh russia has always had good relations more or less with armenia and russia is the only one practically whom armenia can hope for now, with UN, NATO pretending their noses bleed and looking away from their conflict)

[MTVN]

Thing is if these regions vote to join Russia then he then says Russian territory is being attacked by Ukraine and the West. Its no longer just them carrying out a 'special operation' in another country, it paves the way for a big escalation

[bitontheslide]

it was already that way though, thats why they recognised their independence at the start of the war. I think though that there has to be a 50% chance that he will use tactical nukes in ukraine. Winning is more important to him than leaving anything habitable behind

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it was already that way though, thats why they recognised their independence at the start of the war. I think though that there has to be a 50% chance that he will use tactical nukes in ukraine. Winning is more important to him than leaving anything habitable behind

just give Donetsk, Lugansk their independence, those regional governments will never submit to ukraine government either


be done with it, so Putin can focus on more important matters



rather than ukraine's nationalistic ego's and desires of wanting control of every region, it is a saying ''its called pouring water with the wine''

[UserSince2005]

Putin is sending 300k russian reserves to their death. sucks to be them, but they should have stood up to him rather than be his little slave puppets.

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Thing is if these regions vote to join Russia then he then says Russian territory is being attacked by Ukraine and the West. Its no longer just them carrying out a 'special operation' in another country, it paves the way for a big escalation

Ukraine has fired into actual russian terrority already im pretty sure, nothing happened because putin is a puss.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

just give Donetsk, Lugansk their independence, those regional governments will never submit to ukraine government either


be done with it, so Putin can focus on more important matters



rather than ukraine's nationalistic ego's and desires of wanting control of every region, it is a saying ''its called pouring water with the wine''

it's for ukraine to decide if they want to give those areas an independence ref, not russia. That's the point. It's their sovereign land until they decide otherwise

[Sticks]

But according to some, the whole of Ukraine is part of Mother Russia.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Sticks

But according to some, the whole of Ukraine is part of Mother Russia.

Not enough of those..............

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2022/09/21/putin-...y-mobilization

Prime Minister Mark Rutte is not impressed by Russian president Vladamir Putin’s declaration of partial military mobilization. Putin “is panicking,” Rutte said before entering the parliamentary debate on next year’s budget. “You see that Ukraine is starting to act successfully against Russian aggression with Western support.”

Putin’s partial military mobilization means, among other things, that reservists with military experience will be called up for military service. “The West wants to destroy our country,” Putin said in his first televised speech since Russia invaded Ukraine. To protect Russia, 300,000 reservists will be mobilized on Wednesday, and the Russian government should make more money available for arms production, Putin said.

The Russian president also accused the West of nuclear blackmail and said that Russia has “a lot of weapons” to respond with. “If the territorial integrity of our country is threatened, we will use all available means to protect our people. That is not a bluff.”

Rutte doesn’t think that the danger from Russia has increased. “It is also not in Russia’s interest to do strange things. Then they also have a huge problem.”

“It leaves us reasonably Siberian, to stay in Russian terms,” Rutte said of Putin's statements. “But the fact is that the Russians still occupy an area the size of Hungary. This certainly is not over. We have to stay sharp. We have to continue to support Ukraine.”

Rutte is also not impressed by the Russian rhetoric that the war in Ukraine may result in the use of nuclear weapons. According to the Dutch Prime Minister, that is “also a kind of rhetoric that we have heard more often.” He thinks the Russians should give it "some rest."

Russia also came up in the parliamentary debate about the 2023 Budget in a clash between PVV leader Geert Wilders and D66 faction leader Jan Paternotte. After Wilders lashed out at D66 Ministers Rob Jetten (Energy), calling him a “climate psychopath,” and Sigrid Kaag (Finance), Paternotte called the PVV leader “Vladamir Putin’s corporate poodle.” According to him, the PVV votes “like Putin wants it.” Wilders said that he is not on Putin's side, but the Dutch are “in trouble” because of sanctions against Russia.

CDA leader Pieter Heerma called Wilders to account for denouncing the sanctions against Russia. He wanted to know from Wilders how he thought he could stop Putin’s aggression. Wilders replied that it was enough for him to fight “the tyranny of section K.” “I was not elected to solve the problems in the world. I was elected to ensure the Dutch can eat and drink.” According to Heerma, this was “the weakest answer” Wilders has ever given.

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[arista]

[Prime Minister Mark Rutte
is not impressed by Russian president Vladamir Putin’s
declaration of partial military mobilization.
Putin “is panicking,” Rutte said before entering
the parliamentary debate on next year’s budget.
“You see that Ukraine is starting to act successfully
against Russian aggression with Western support.”]



Yes good words
by your leader
Nicky,


USA and many nations
agree.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Sticks

But according to some, the whole of Ukraine is part of Mother Russia.

Kiev is where the Holy Russian Empire was basically born, enabled by Prince Vladimir.

[arista]

President Biden
now live at the UN
NYC talking about Ukraine



All media



One Problem with Biden
he keeps repeating Keywords
there is no need to.

[bitontheslide]

Prime Minister Liz Truss has confirmed five British nationals held by Russian-backed forces in eastern Ukraine have been released.

In a statement, she said it would end "months of uncertainty and suffering for them and their families."

She thanked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and Saudi Arabia for helping to secure the release of the detainees.

"Russia must end the ruthless exploitation of prisoners of war and civilian detainees for political ends," she added.

[arista]

Yes Good News 5 released

[MTVN]

That's great news, well done PM

Does it include the two who were sentenced to death?