[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

This isn't a dig at Shows like House Of The Dragon or The Rings Of Power before anyone thinks I'm attacking one of those, as tbf I haven't seen either of them.

I don't know if it's just me that's noticed that TV Shows are executed on a much more basic level? Scripted or Reality TV it mostly seems to consist of content that anyone can follow, and that anyone can like because it doesn't really rock the boat.

Now don't get me wrong I'm not someone that always watches super high brow TV, but some of the things that get classed as good nowadays truly baffles me.

In particular the current MasterChef Australia series, Chainsaw Man & Blade Of The Immortal are really shockingly bad over the last few years imo.

Oh and the boring FBI: International that makes the worst CW Show look like GOT in terms of excitement.

What do you guys think? Is 2018-2022 style TV better than Shows in the past? Or do you agree with me that TV Shows are more poorly structured nowadays?

i'm liking my nations reality tv content at the moment

Familie Gillis: Massa is Kassa (about a camping multi millionaire Peter Gillis from the Oostappen Group, and his entire family, how they all run the camping businesses)


Chateau Meiland (about millionaire B&B owner & tv presenter, eurovision superfan Martien Meiland and his family, how to moved to a chateau in france, now back to holland first hengelo and now currently noordwijk)


Restaurant Misverstand - Restaurant Misunderstanding (a show about people with dementia, alzheimers having to run a restaurant led by michelin star chef Ron Blaauw)


only thing what we have of an overkill is late night talk shows

Op1 (NPO) every 5 days of the week with each day a different presenting duo

RTL having Beau from spring to summer, then Renze in summer, Jinek from autumn to winter

SBS6 having Vandaag Inside with football pundits Johan Derksen, Rene van der Gijp, Wilfred Genee talking about every current entertainment news of the day, and literally criticize everything, and earlier on they have Half8 first by Johnny De Mol (but he got put on temporary leave due to physical abuse of his girlfriend scandal) so now sports presenter Helene Hendriks, and ofc news show (long running) Hart van Nederland (with former eurovision artist Marlayne as also longest reigning presenter there too now ''One Good Reason'')



must be a problem in other countries then



as for our entertainment shows we got

The Masked Singer (RTL) (new season to start as of November)

Expeditie Robinson/Survivor (RTL)

Wie is de Mol/The Mole (NPO/AVROTROS)


and our many quiz shows

our own Beat the Champions (which is our version of Beat the Chasers btw)



we had Sterren Dansen Op Het Ijs for many years, Dancing With The Stars for 5 seasons (and 1 strictly come dancing attempt on NPO)


as for talent shows we have had

The Voice

but before that

Popstars

Idols

X Factor

The Next Pop Talent

Op Zoek Naar (musical one, the search for) Zorro, Maria, Evita, Mary Poppins



currently we more have Beste Zangers as our main music cover show




so to answer your question, i prefer the time when we had popstars, dwts, doi but there still is enough for me to enjoy anyway, and i preferred our time at eurovision back when we had nationaal songfestival when public had a say in choosing our entries

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i'm liking my nations reality tv content at the moment

Familie Gillis: Massa is Kassa (about a camping multi millionaire Peter Gillis from the Oostappen Group, and his entire family, how they all run the camping businesses)


Chateau Meiland (about millionaire B&B owner & tv presenter, eurovision superfan Martien Meiland and his family, how to moved to a chateau in france, now back to holland first hengelo and now currently noordwijk)


Restaurant Misverstand - Restaurant Misunderstanding (a show about people with dementia, alzheimers having to run a restaurant led by michelin star chef Ron Blaauw)


only thing what we have of an overkill is late night talk shows

Op1 (NPO) every 5 days of the week with each day a different presenting duo

RTL having Beau from spring to summer, then Renze in summer, Jinek from autumn to winter

SBS6 having Vandaag Inside with football pundits Johan Derksen, Rene van der Gijp, Wilfred Genee talking about every current entertainment news of the day, and literally criticize everything, and earlier on they have Half8 first by Johnny De Mol (but he got put on temporary leave due to physical abuse of his girlfriend scandal) so now sports presenter Helene Hendriks, and ofc news show (long running) Hart van Nederland (with former eurovision artist Marlayne as also longest reigning presenter there too now ''One Good Reason'')



must be a problem in other countries then



as for our entertainment shows we got

The Masked Singer (RTL) (new season to start as of November)

Expeditie Robinson/Survivor (RTL)

Wie is de Mol/The Mole (NPO/AVROTROS)


and our many quiz shows

our own Beat the Champions (which is our version of Beat the Chasers btw)



we had Sterren Dansen Op Het Ijs for many years, Dancing With The Stars for 5 seasons (and 1 strictly come dancing attempt on NPO)


as for talent shows we have had

The Voice

but before that

Popstars

Idols

X Factor

The Next Pop Talent

Op Zoek Naar (musical one, the search for) Zorro, Maria, Evita, Mary Poppins



currently we more have Beste Zangers as our main music cover show




so to answer your question, i prefer the time when we had popstars, dwts, doi but there still is enough for me to enjoy anyway, and i preferred our time at eurovision back when we had nationaal songfestival when public had a say in choosing our entries

It sounds like you've found some decent entries for yourself.

Reality TV wise at the moment for myself I'd say that Strictly & The Masked franchise are currently my favourites as they're fun to watch without being overly nice.

It's weird how to describe TV Shows at the moment, but let's just say a Show like Dexter in it's prime seems to be impossible to find in the current climate.

Or just a Show that's really interesting in general.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It sounds like you've found some decent entries for yourself.

Reality TV wise at the moment for myself I'd say that Strictly & The Masked franchise are currently my favourites as they're fun to watch without being overly nice.

It's weird how to describe TV Shows at the moment, but let's just say a Show like Dexter in it's prime seems to be impossible to find in the current climate.

Or just a Show that's really interesting in general.

God my comment about Strictly has aged badly.

And in the worst era of TV, The Witcher: Blood Origin not only has scored a 4.0/10 on IMDB, but it also has an 8% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.

Obviously it's still early days so maybe the reviews will be kinder in the coming days, and tbf I haven't watched the Show so it could be getting over hated like how I feel like ROP is over hated, or how some people felt like Resident Evil, Halo & She-Hulk were over hated.

However even the critics have scored this Witcher spin-off lukewarm, and this is a franchise that normally is positively received by most people, so it's highly unusual to see this kinda score for something The Witcher related.

And to me if it's anything like most American Shows over the last few years I'll say what I personally think might be harming this spin-off.

And no I don't think that all of the blame can be put on Shows casting more diverse, because whilst it sometimes can be out of place, I do also think there's been times where Actors/Actresses of minority groups have been fantastic for the Show that they're apart of. I honestly believe that writers are hiding behind the minority communities to disguise the fact that they're hacks, and they always will be.

I personally think that the real issues are:

1. Most modern Shows have dire pacing, most of the time you have to wait until the last two episodes for anything interesting to happen.

2. Action, most Shows are either devoid of action scenes entirely, or you're lucky to get one a Season.

3. Comedy is largely absent from most new American Shows.

4. Characters in most American Shows today have bland personalities imo, and character dynamics are either non-existent or bland.

5. Whatever plot is there is normally forgettable nowadays, I think the only examples recently of memorable storytelling to me have come from The Sandman, From, and ROP. Whatever you might think of any of these Shows that I've mentioned, I would say that they all had plot points that can be remembered.

6. The episode count needs to be higher again, most Shows today are 8 episodes a Season, and personally I think that it's really hard to do much with certain concepts in 8 episodes, it just ironically leads to problem number 1 because the writers know that they can't tell a good story in such a short time frame. I think it at the very least needs to go back up to 12 episodes for a Season.

If The Witcher: Blood Origin does suffer on any of these issues, then it deserves it's reaction imo.