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Old 31-10-2022, 02:45 PM #1
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What about Albanian Migrants
do you think they have a right to stay in the UK?
I think they have a right to have their cases and situations heard without prejudgement, like they would in any normal country. You forget that the reason this is happening is because we have purposefully closed down the previous normal and legal routes.
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I think they have a right to have their cases and situations heard without prejudgement, like they would in any normal country. You forget that the reason this is happening is because we have purposefully closed down the previous normal and legal routes.

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It is not a War Country.
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It is not a War Country.
Then don't ask my opinion
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I think they have a right to have their cases and situations heard without prejudgement, like they would in any normal country. You forget that the reason this is happening is because we have purposefully closed down the previous normal and legal routes.
Legal migration is also at record numbers:

https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/new...live-in-the-uk
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Legal migration is also at record numbers:

https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/new...live-in-the-uk
We still have an aging population, a falling birth rate, and massive labour shortages. In a post brexit and post covid world, why do you think an anti-immigration government has issued such a record number?
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We still have an aging population, a falling birth rate, and massive labour shortages. In a post brexit and post covid world, why do you think an anti-immigration government has issued such a record number?
We also have a million unemployed.

We need to stop worrying about growth, and more cheap employment for the corporations and gracefully accept our decline. Social cohesion is more important than the frigging GDP.

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This is just bizarre. Social cohesion and immigration aren't bedfellows. Social Cohesion has been destroyed by policies like austerity, which is responsible for 330k excess deaths and a destruction of communities and community services. This 12 year government did that, not immigration, and it's a really sad indictment on our media that you believe this is a valid viewpoint.
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This is just bizarre. Social cohesion and immigration aren't bedfellows. Social Cohesion has been destroyed by policies like austerity, which is responsible for 330k excess deaths and a destruction of communities and community services. This 12 year government did that, not immigration, and it's a really sad indictment on our media that you believe this is a valid viewpoint.
I don't get my opinions from the media and I'm not a Tory.
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This is just bizarre. Social cohesion and immigration aren't bedfellows. Social Cohesion has been destroyed by policies like austerity, which is responsible for 330k excess deaths and a destruction of communities and community services. This 12 year government did that, not immigration, and it's a really sad indictment on our media that you believe this is a valid viewpoint.
which is responsible for 330k excess deaths and a destruction of communities

a non-existent hard left trope is what?

evidence please
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which is responsible for 330k excess deaths and a destruction of communities

a non-existent hard left trope is what?

evidence please
You have google. Check out the journal of epidemiology and community health, that well known pusher of hard left tropes
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This is just bizarre. Social cohesion and immigration aren't bedfellows. Social Cohesion has been destroyed by policies like austerity, which is responsible for 330k excess deaths and a destruction of communities and community services. This 12 year government did that, not immigration, and it's a really sad indictment on our media that you believe this is a valid viewpoint.
If public services are being affected by cuts and austerity, vast amounts of non-contributors coming here won't help them.
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If public services are being affected by cuts and austerity, vast amounts of non-contributors coming here won't help them.
You're massively missing the point. Disaster capitalism creates the crisis. Austerity, which kills people, and drags down the country. All of this could have been prevented by taxing the wealthy/corporations, but they can't do that because they hold the real power in government. Then disaster capitalism tells us it's the EU that has been the problem, and so desperate people vote leave (which was always a massive tax avoidance scam for the wealthy). which further decreases the SoL in the country.

Then this government has it's back against the wall, so now it's really pushing language from 1930's Germany.

What you are ignoring, is that the violence initially wrought upon the poor or immigrants, never stops there. The government has used all of these self created crisis to steadily erode your rights and folks have been convinced, just like Germany, that these sacrifices are necessary. They aren't - all that is happening now is the result of choices made by the most wealthy in cahoots with their corporate masters.

We don't support our own people on benefits. but you think we're throwing around gram lifestyles for "the invaders?" You're not stupid, Oliver. This crisis has been created by the government who have purposefully crippled our ability to process people. If you're interested, search it out yourself, and look into the brief info I've posted here.
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