[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Denver

When a Asian person does something its terrorism when a white person does the exact same they are labeled mental ill

Yes I have heard that extreme left conspiracy theory bots pump out rubbish like that on twitter

its scary to think people would countenance it,


i agree

[Beso]

The bloke was dying of cancer and decided to make a martyr of himself.

He looks like a homeless rag, a man disillusioned with society, let down by his politicians because of the colour of his skin.

Chucked a few IRA type petrol bombs at a brick wall then tied a noose round his kneck and tied the other end to a tree, before jumping in his car to speed off.

A fool of a man, a man now listed as a far right extremist by the media and social commentators on TIBB. All he seemed to be was a man on death row, exasperated enough with the state of his country that he would do this.

He should have surrendered, and he would have recieved all the care and attention he wasnt receiving for his illness because he was a common criminal.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The bloke was dying of cancer and decided to make a martyr of himself.

He looks like a homeless rag, a man disillusioned with society, let down by his politicians because of the colour of his skin.

Chucked a few IRA type petrol bombs at a brick wall then tied a noose round his kneck and tied the other end to a tree, before jumping in his car to speed off.

A fool of a man, a man now listed as a far right extremist by the media and social commentators on TIBB. All he seemed to be was a man on death row, exasperated enough with the state of his country that he would do this.

He should have surrendered, and he would have recieved all the care and attention he wasnt receiving for his illness because he was a common criminal.

well said Parmy

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The bloke was dying of cancer and decided to make a martyr of himself.

He looks like a homeless rag, a man disillusioned with society, let down by his politicians because of the colour of his skin.

Chucked a few IRA type petrol bombs at a brick wall then tied a noose round his kneck and tied the other end to a tree, before jumping in his car to speed off.

A fool of a man, a man now listed as a far right extremist by the media and social commentators on TIBB. All he seemed to be was a man on death row, exasperated enough with the state of his country that he would do this.

He should have surrendered, and he would have recieved all the care and attention he wasnt receiving for his illness because he was a common criminal.

If all the same things applied as above but his skin were brown, would you say they same thing? Or would you believe it was terrorism? It is quite telling that you said he threw IRA type petrol bombs. Considering the IRA were comsodered terrorists, surely it is an act of terrorism that he followed their MO?

[The Slim Reaper]

Don't do it to yourself Annie.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

If all the same things applied as above but his skin were brown, would you say they same thing? Or would you believe it was terrorism? It is quite telling that you said he threw IRA type petrol bombs. Considering the IRA were comsodered terrorists, surely it is an act of terrorism that he followed their MO?

a single man with terminal cancer is the same as a criminal murderous planned terror organisation who killed thousands of innocent men, women and childen?

f me

are you sure?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

If all the same things applied as above but his skin were brown, would you say they same thing? Or would you believe it was terrorism? It is quite telling that you said he threw IRA type petrol bombs. Considering the IRA were comsodered terrorists, surely it is an act of terrorism that he followed their MO?

When I say IRA, I was referring to the riots, where petrol bombs are thrown at the police line. The ones you see bouncing off the riot shields in a tiny explosion, before melting away in the breeze.


All the above(above my reply, that you refer to) would not apply to someone with different coloured skin. Therefore I cant reply yes or no.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

a single man with terminal cancer is the same as a criminal murderous planned terror organisation who killed thousands of innocent men, women and childen?

f me

are you sure?

Yes because that's exactly what I said. Don't put words in my mouth, I don't play your games LT and it is now really boring. Dying of terminal cancer does not give anyone the right to risk the lives of others, no matter what. End of.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Don't do it to yourself Annie.

I was genuinely interested though and ill so thought I'd foray....I've lost interest now though lol

[thesheriff443]

For me it’s very simple, I don’t care about left or right bullsh1t

We should be helping those who are genuine and sending back those that are not.
Reward the good and punish the bad

[Beso]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I was genuinely interested though and ill so thought I'd foray....I've lost interest now though lol

Bit rude when I've answered your question.

[Oliver_W]

If it was truly a pre-suicide "fuck you" to the people he genuinely perceived as being responsible for draining money and resources away from the services which should have treated his cancer ... then it can't be called terrorism. Not truly.

But if he thought throwing a few mediocre molotov cocktails at the exterior gates of the migrant centre while passing by in his car might kill everyone inside? Then sure, ne was a terrorist.

[thesheriff443]

A life boat is there to save lives in an emergency but you can keep letting people on until it sinks

[bots]

the majority of isis folks that attack western targets make martyrs of themselves, so does that mean they are not terrorists either? Weird

Anyone that attacks another individual or group where the intention is to cause terror is a terrorist and throwing petrol bombs either kills or injures people and causes terror. End of

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

What like when West Ham ICF batter a load of Spurs fans

is that Terrorism?

or if 2 Doormen knock the granny out of a mouthy teen?

Is that Terrorism?

Despite being horrible crimes that you've described, they're not technically attacking an entire community (basically streets or entire Cities) which is where I'm personally drawing the line at Terrorism.

The official definition of terrorism is this:
"The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."

Which if everyone is being fair, both the Far Right Terrorists and the Islamic terrorists are extremely political with their violence.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the majority of isis folks that attack western targets make martyrs of themselves, so does that mean they are not terrorists either? Weird

Anyone that attacks another individual or group where the intention is to cause terror is a terrorist and throwing petrol bombs either kills or injures people and causes terror. End of

I can see your logic but one size doesn’t fit all in these cases

Individuals kill one or lots of people for different reasons they may cause terror but they are not classified as terrorists

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the majority of isis folks that attack western targets make martyrs of themselves, so does that mean they are not terrorists either? Weird

Anyone that attacks another individual or group where the intention is to cause terror is a terrorist and throwing petrol bombs either kills or injures people and causes terror. End of

How many people were injured or killed by his attack?

[bots]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

How many people were injured or killed by his attack?

he still terrorized people ... are you saying you would nonchalantly look out the window and say ... oh look, someone is throwing petrol bombs at me outside, whistle and go and make a cup of tea?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

he still terrorized people ... are you saying you would nonchalantly look out the window and say ... oh look, someone is throwing petrol bombs at me outside, whistle and go and make a cup of tea?

No, I'm saying he made a token effort to show his distain to a drain in resources before he killed himself, in lieu of dying from terminal cancer.

Are you saying a handful of molotovs (one kf which fizzled out) thrown at an exterior gate (with no migrants directly behind it) was an attempt to do serious damage?

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[bots]

terrorism shouldn't require justification or otherwise, it either is or it is not, and throwing petrol bombs around is most certainly terrorism

[Cherie]

From his FB posts he certainly indulged in far right ideology I would say he was inspired by suicide bombers

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

terrorism shouldn't require justification or otherwise, it either is or it is not, and throwing petrol bombs around is most certainly terrorism

Can’t agree with you
The words fit but the motivation or motives don’t

School massacres in the USA cause terror but it’s not terrorism

Lt running around the neighbourhood naked would be terrifying but not an act of terrorism

[Crimson Dynamo]

I doubt his aims had any real politics - it was a last protest from a dead man

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I doubt his aims had any real politics - it was a last protest from a dead man

Yeah he was man whose benefits were halved and who was dying from cancer, just acting out before taking his own life. There's no real reason to assume he was driven by "politics" of any kind.

[Liam-]

Terror sympathisers out in force today huh