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The Slim Reaper · 03-12-2022, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Never complain, never explain, it was easier for her to take it on the chin, I’m sure at 83 you would do the same, throw yourself under the bus for the sake of it, she has not been at the Queens side for 60 years and not learned how to handle things, it’s not like she is going to rock up on Lorraine to give her side is it

So you just accept lies being spread about you being a racist? Nah, you wouldn't take it on the chin, neither would I, and nor would pretty much anyone who has contributed in this thread.

The family did explain - they condemned what has been accepted as happening.

Cherie · 03-12-2022, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway

I don’t think Ngozi’s deliberately trying to vilify anyone but at the end of the day she had an experience that was quite painful to her and she wants to talk about it. Supposing she’s telling nothing but the non-biased truth (and of that I have little doubt) and this challenges (if not publicly weeds out) some of the prejudiced attitudes other people have at Buckingham Palace, I suppose that’ll be mission-accomplished. Some things really do need to be talked about and racism, merely alleged or not, is one of them. I don’t think it was her intention for an old lady to get the boot.

What did she think would happen ...I mean it’s pretty clear it wouldn’t be business as usual

I think she is quite happy painting the Royal family as racist, don’t you?

Cherie · 03-12-2022, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

So you just accept lies being spread about you being a racist? Nah, you wouldn't take it on the chin, neither would I, and nor would pretty much anyone who has contributed in this thread.

The family did explain - they condemned what has been accepted as happening.

Wrongly in my view, but they could hardly do anything else backed into a corner

Redway · 03-12-2022, 09:35 PM

And just to be clear, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with appropriately/politely asking someone where they originate from (it can be the start of a really cool, interesting conversation and very-often is) but Hussey didn’t just ask a question with fair, respectful intentions. She was prying and prying until she got her form of confirmation that Marlene Fulani wasn’t British enough for her.

Crimson Dynamo · 03-12-2022, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Wrongly in my view, but they could hardly do anything else backed into a corner

blame fear

its 2022

dodge the blame

avoid the fake hard-left racial hysteria

on social media

note Willaim and Kate have totally avoided anything

not mentioned in this thread

that pair got skills dude

Alf · 03-12-2022, 09:38 PM

I am logging off for 6 months but I just have to post tonight and basically do some trolling until I get a ban.

Swan · 03-12-2022, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You've just placed your inherent biases into that framing, which is fine, but just be aware that you're doing it, and that it isn't neutral observation.

Corbyn wasn't misled. he stood on his platform, a great platform by the way that would actually address many of the issues the country faces, especially today. But we got may and Johnson instead. that's democracy. Offering the same things as tories, is not a strategy that will work, when the actual tories are prepared to pander to the even more base instincts of the right. It was the labour right that worked to prevent Corbyn winning in 17, when he had a chance in a non-brexit election. That is a fact that can be proved as labour files and internal documents over years have been released.

Socialism is an economic philosophy, the rest is just nonsense.

That's fine, i do lean right at times. But for the most part i don't. I know this is off topic, but i still can't grasp why you hate Wes so much? I understand your objection to him privatising more areas of the NHS, and can't say i agree with that either. But us central a holes like Wes, more than anything the Tories could ever produce. He believes in multiculturalism, a gay man who came from working class upbringings.

What would rather, him, or dicks like Truss? Keir?

Cherie · 03-12-2022, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf

I am logging off for 6 months but I just have to post tonight and basically do some trolling until I get a ban.

Alf · 03-12-2022, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway

And just to be clear, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with appropriately/politely asking someone where they originate from (it can be the start of a really cool, interesting conversation and very-often is) but Hussey didn’t just ask a question with fair, respectful intentions. She was prying and prying until she got her form of confirmation that Marlene Fulani wasn’t British enough for her.

Where do you come from Redway?

No, really, where do you come from?

No, but where do you really come from?

Crimson Dynamo · 03-12-2022, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf

I am logging off for 6 months but I just have to post tonight and basically do some trolling until I get a ban.

Alf · 03-12-2022, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway

I’ve been one of the more intellectual voices on this thread. At this point I’m just tired and having a bit of fun. I’d relax if I were you.

You're about as intellectual as Joey Essex.

Swan · 03-12-2022, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf

I am logging off for 6 months but I just have to post tonight and basically do some trolling until I get a ban.

Don't troll, say what's on your mind!

GoldHeart · 03-12-2022, 09:42 PM

I'm confused about the whole 'transcript' , that makes no sense.

Alf · 03-12-2022, 09:42 PM

Where do you come from Slim?

Crimson Dynamo · 03-12-2022, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway

And just to be clear, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with appropriately/politely asking someone where they originate from (it can be the start of a really cool, interesting conversation and very-often is) but Hussey didn’t just ask a question with fair, respectful intentions. She was prying and prying until she got her form of confirmation that Marlene Fulani wasn’t British enough for her.

and you got this from one bias lady's recollection?

thank god you are not a lawyer

The Slim Reaper · 03-12-2022, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Swan

That's fine, i do lean right at times. But for the most part i don't. I know this is off topic, but i still can't grasp why you hate Wes so much? I understand your objection to him privatising more areas of the NHS, and can't say i agree with that either. But us central a holes like Wes, more than anything the Tories could ever produce. He believes in multiculturalism, a gay man who came from working class upbringings.

What would rather, him, or dicks like Truss? Keir?

They're all cut from exactly the same cloth. I perhaps know a little more about the things Streeting and his mates were up to during the Corbyn years to actually prevent a labour government. I'm off out to meet some friends now, but prob a conversation for pm if you want to have it at some point.

Swan · 03-12-2022, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf

Where do you come from Slim?

Slim is fine, don't go after him, i wish more lefties were like him, at least you can have a conversation!

Alf · 03-12-2022, 09:43 PM

Is it about time that gays and trans started celebrating straight people?

Redway · 03-12-2022, 09:43 PM

Example of lovely, appropriate, well-intentioned asking: ‘you’ve got such beautiful, chocolate-y/olive skin and Chioma/Obinna/Moyinoluwa/Oritsetosan | Manpreet/Fahd | Klestore | Ageous sounds like such a lovely name. Is that representative or Nigerian | Pakistani | Albanian | Greek heritage?’

Anyone reasonable would be proud to answer. It shows an open interest and might-well be the starter of a fascinating conversation.

Example of what isn’t okay: someone under the guise of ‘I’m old so you can’t take offence to what I say without being ageist, but I can be (not even very subtly) racist projecting a 7-minute interrogative monologue until a lady clearly uncomfortable confirms that she has non-British heritage.

There’s a world of difference between the two.

Swan · 03-12-2022, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

They're all cut from exactly the same cloth. I perhaps know a little more about the things Streeting and his mates were up to during the Corbyn years to actually prevent a labour government. I'm off out to meet some friends now, but prob a conversation for pm if you want to have it at some point.

Fair enough, have a good one Slim.