[Vanessa]

Shirley is an incredibly biased judge. She only saves her favourites.
Of course this is not Fleur fault, she has my full support.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Santa's Little Helper

Shirley is an incredibly biased judge. She only saves her favourites.
Of course this is not Fleur fault, she has my full support.

which really is a shame, because she is a great dance teacher

i mean among her students top dancers now Derek & Julianne Hough, both have been pro's on american version, both have been/are judges too, Julianne had been some years ago and Derek currently is a judge, he is quite the nice judge there, compared to Carrie Ann or Len or even Bruno can be quite harsh

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

which really is a shame, because she is a great dance teacher

i mean among her students top dancers now Derek & Julianne Hough, both have been pro's on american version, both have been/are judges too, Julianne had been some years ago and Derek currently is a judge, he is quite the nice judge there, compared to Carrie Ann or Len or even Bruno can be quite harsh

Urgh, I can't stand her. The only judge talking any sense is Anton. Who knew he would be the best judge?
I think he's brilliant.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

if the show had better public viewers, then she wouldn't have been in any dance offs, neither would Molly


so now in the final, chanceless compared to public pets Hamza & Helen, so one of those two will win, and if it is Helen i am done with this version

Sadly the public just aren't flexible.

People lock in who their favourite is within the first 3 to 4 weeks of the Show, and then don't be open minded to anyone else.

In this series in particular the masses didn't even give Fleur & Molly a chance, and I know that some people will argue otherwise, but the fact that I was able to call from the first week that despite their good dancing ability, they'd be low vote getters tells you everything about the public not being open minded enough to change their mind on a contestant.

Now don't get me wrong I'm not saying that Fleur & Molly deliver 10/10 dances every week, but it's clear as day that they're better dancers than Hamza & Helen, and that they've in general delivered more iconic dances to the series than Hamza & Helen.

But then again I made the same argument for John, Rhys & AJ last year over Rose, and look how that turned out.

And with the Hamza vs Helen final two it's a really bizarre situation imo because Hamza definitely started off stronger, because Helen spent the first 5 weeks in sleep mode, but in fairness I'd say that she's probably finishing her journey off stronger than Hamza as he has just been allowed to fart his way through the last few weeks.

So for me it's a draw in terms of dancing, but I do edge on wanting Helen to win because of the judges bias towards Hamza.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Sadly the public just aren't flexible.

People lock in who their favourite is within the first 3 to 4 weeks of the Show, and then don't be open minded to anyone else.

In this series in particular the masses didn't even give Fleur & Molly a chance, and I know that some people will argue otherwise, but the fact that I was able to call from the first week that despite their good dancing ability, they'd be low vote getters tells you everything about the public not being open minded enough to change their mind on a contestant.

Now don't get me wrong I'm not saying that Fleur & Molly deliver 10/10 dances every week, but it's clear as day that they're better dancers than Hamza & Helen, and that they've in general delivered more iconic dances to the series than Hamza & Helen.

But then again I made the same argument for John, Rhys & AJ last year over Rose, and look how that turned out.

And with the Hamza vs Helen final two it's a really bizarre situation imo because Hamza definitely started off stronger, because Helen spent the first 5 weeks in sleep mode, but in fairness I'd say that she's probably finishing her journey off stronger than Hamza as he has just been allowed to fart his way through the last few weeks.

So for me it's a draw in terms of dancing, but I do edge on wanting Helen to win because of the judges bias towards Hamza.

some of her moronic facial expressions in that argentine tango