[jet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The producers have also altered the queens most famous speech to make the monarchy sound worse.

Disgusting. and to think that the Queen could have still been alive now to witness all this and H&M didn't give a damn.
You don't attempt to undermine or even destroy the legacy of very elderly people you love. He didn't care. Harry has shown his desire for gimme gimme more money and kowtowing to his awful wife is all that matters to him.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Rustic Bauble

Totally agree Jet. The wonderful Love Story…the scripted words out of a Hollywood movie interjected with the hate and abuse they suffered.
They haven’t once taken any responsibility…it’s everyone else’s fault. Meghan making herself out to be completely naive about the occasion of a Royal wedding…is farcical in itself. Also the whole thing is geared around Meghan being Diana…the same popularity…the same hounding of the press…it’s like you say uncomfortably hilarious.

It really is. Meghan was just a wide - eyed ingenue who knew nuthin' about curtsying, she didn’t even know anything about Harry, not a thing! - she just wanted to know ‘was he nice?’.
As you say, she was completely naive about Royal weddings, she didn't know that people lined TWO sides of the street and was amazed that there were CROWDS there.

Nothing can be taken at face value that comes out of her mouth. Nothing....

This is what she said about Kate and William’s wedding on her TIG blog, 4 years before she married Harry:

"Grown women seem to retain this childhood fantasy. Just look at the pomp and circumstance surrounding the royal wedding and endless conversation about Princess Kate."

https://www.hellomagazine.com/brides...nearthed-post/

[arista]

The most important
thing was pointed out on the end of NewsnightHD bbc2

William can not Reply

It is Netflix
making the money.
Of course, they paid Harry.

[arista]

[arista]

From Twitter
just the Top of Fridays Metro



The Full Paper had to go on the Nurse Strike Thread
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/l...6e39ee8601.png

[Cherie]

Has Harry explained yet why he never bothered to meet Megs father before the wedding, maybe he didnt have the transport

[bots]

at this stage it's all nonsense. If the royal family are sensible, they will just shut off all communications with Harry and Meghan and starve them of any further material. People will get bored of them pretty quickly if they keep going over stuff that happened in the past

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Sherry hic mas

Where is the evidence of that

There are countless articles online by Royal Biographers that highlight it. William was always favoured as the Heir to the Throne....The Queen Mother always wanted William by her side, bever Harry. There is a reason all the "spares" go off the rails, Margaret, Andrew and now Harry....they are aware from a very young age that their presence is not as important to anyone as their older sibling. I don't care how many privileges or how much money they have, a child needs equal treatment to their siblings in order for no resentment to build. They were born in to wealth, that was always there.....they needed more love, affection and affirmation if their place in the family and nurturing and telling they were as important. I think its very telling how the 2nd siblings all apear to be the most troubled and spoilt. You can tell the difference in the Cambridge kids.....at the moment George is the most solemn whereas Charlotte and Louis are more carefree and mischievous much Harry was as a kid .....George is already being groomed for his future role whereas the others are being allowed to be kids. I think (hope) William and Kate's parenting is much different though, far more hands on and so hopefully Charlotte particulalry won't feel the "Spare".

The Queen is said to have treated them very differently.....although she loved them equally.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

There are countless articles online by Royal Biographers that highlight it. William was always favoured as the Heir to the Throne....The Queen Mother always wanted William by her side, bever Harry. There is a reason all the "spares" go off the rails, Margaret, Andrew and now Harry....they are aware from a very young age that their presence is not as important to anyone as their older sibling. I don't care how many privileges or how much money they have, a child needs equal treatment to their siblings in order for no resentment to build. They were born in to wealth, that was always there.....they needed more love, affection and affirmation if their place in the family and nurturing and telling they were as important. I think its very telling how the 2nd siblings all apear to be the most troubled and spoilt. You can tell the difference in the Cambridge kids.....at the moment George is the most solemn whereas Charlotte and Louis are more carefree and mischievous much Harry was as a kid .....George is already being groomed for his future role whereas the others are being allowed to be kids. I think (hope) William and Kate's parenting is much different though, far more hands on and so hopefully Charlotte particulalry won't feel the "Spare".

The Queen is said to have treated them very differently.....although she loved them equally.

So that’s harry given a poor me pass, what’s Meghan’s excuse?

People come from poverty and unimaginable abuse but still make a life for themselves
Harry fcuk right off with his pity party, what he needs is a smack in the mouth and told to fcuk off

Maybe he wasn’t loved enough so now he can make a difference in his own kids lives but just remember when him and harry are flying to all these awards or harry is playing polo with Meg watching someone else is taking care of his kids

It’s pile of bull sh1t

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

There are countless articles online by Royal Biographers that highlight it. William was always favoured as the Heir to the Throne....The Queen Mother always wanted William by her side, bever Harry. There is a reason all the "spares" go off the rails, Margaret, Andrew and now Harry....they are aware from a very young age that their presence is not as important to anyone as their older sibling. I don't care how many privileges or how much money they have, a child needs equal treatment to their siblings in order for no resentment to build. They were born in to wealth, that was always there.....they needed more love, affection and affirmation if their place in the family and nurturing and telling they were as important. I think its very telling how the 2nd siblings all apear to be the most troubled and spoilt. You can tell the difference in the Cambridge kids.....at the moment George is the most solemn whereas Charlotte and Louis are more carefree and mischievous much Harry was as a kid .....George is already being groomed for his future role whereas the others are being allowed to be kids. I think (hope) William and Kate's parenting is much different though, far more hands on and so hopefully Charlotte particulalry won't feel the "Spare".

The Queen is said to have treated them very differently.....although she loved them equally.

I find them both pretty insufferable but that's a good point tbf

[Swan]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

There are countless articles online by Royal Biographers that highlight it. William was always favoured as the Heir to the Throne....The Queen Mother always wanted William by her side, bever Harry. There is a reason all the "spares" go off the rails, Margaret, Andrew and now Harry....they are aware from a very young age that their presence is not as important to anyone as their older sibling. I don't care how many privileges or how much money they have, a child needs equal treatment to their siblings in order for no resentment to build. They were born in to wealth, that was always there.....they needed more love, affection and affirmation if their place in the family and nurturing and telling they were as important. I think its very telling how the 2nd siblings all apear to be the most troubled and spoilt. You can tell the difference in the Cambridge kids.....at the moment George is the most solemn whereas Charlotte and Louis are more carefree and mischievous much Harry was as a kid .....George is already being groomed for his future role whereas the others are being allowed to be kids. I think (hope) William and Kate's parenting is much different though, far more hands on and so hopefully Charlotte particulalry won't feel the "Spare".

The Queen is said to have treated them very differently.....although she loved them equally.

Just replying to the bit about Andrew. I've seen a couple of interviews with ex security in the Palace, and both guys said (one of the guys worked pretty close for Andrew, not actually with him, if that makes sense) that Andrew was clearly the Queen's favourite. He would get away with being a complete sh!t to staff, be allowed questionable guests, and that the general feeling was the Queen would turn a blind eye to his awful behaviour. I mean he got away with so much, i can believe she favoured him.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

So that’s harry given a poor me pass, what’s Meghan’s excuse?

People come from poverty and unimaginable abuse but still make a life for themselves
Harry fcuk right off with his pity party, what he needs is a smack in the mouth and told to fcuk off

Maybe he wasn’t loved enough so now he can make a difference in his own kids lives but just remember when him and harry are flying to all these awards or harry is playing polo with Meg watching someone else is taking care of his kids

It’s pile of bull sh1t

Not giving anyone a free pass, just pointing out some pretty relevant points in the behaviour of the Royals in general and how they treat the children of the Heir or Monarch.

Not sure what you are saying about other people watching his kids - the same can be said about William and Kate's children. They all have nannies As do a lot of parents.

He really doesn't need a smack in the mouth - violence doesn't solve anything - you really don't have to take any notice of him if that's what you want as nothing he says will have ANY impact on your life.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I find them both pretty insufferable but that's a good point tbf

Yes like when he was 21 in America shagging a 32 year old mother of two that boy as only had a life of misery, so yourself a favour and think about what you are writing.

If you want to think about how life is bad for someone think about the parents of those kids who just died falling through ice or a 4 year old girl who drowned in a public swimming pool while her mum took her two other kids to the toilet

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I find them both pretty insufferable but that's a good point tbf

Yes like when he was 21 in America shagging a 32 year old mother of two that boy as only had a life of misery, so yourself a favour and think about what you are writing.

If you want to think about how life is bad for someone think about the parents of those kids who just died falling through ice or a 4 year old girl who drowned in a public swimming pool while her mum took her two other kids to the toilet

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I find them both pretty insufferable but that's a good point tbf

Yes like when he was 21 in America shagging a 32 year old mother of two that boy as only had a life of misery, so yourself a favour and think about what you are writing.

If you want to think about how life is bad for someone think about the parents of those kids who just died falling through ice or a 4 year old girl who drowned in a public swimming pool while her mum took her two other kids to the toilet

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Father Chris Mouse

Just replying to the bit about Andrew. I've seen a couple of interviews with ex security in the Palace, and both guys said (one of the guys worked pretty close for Andrew, not actually with him, if that makes sense) that Andrew was clearly the Queen's favourite. He would get away with being a complete sh!t to staff, be allowed questionable guests, and that the general feeling was the Queen would turn a blind eye to his awful behaviour. I mean he got away with so much, i can believe she favoured him.

He was by far her favourite child - that is very well known. The "Firm" is very different from just her though. She is said to have loved both William and Harry equally but treated them very differently - quite possibly turning a blind eye to Harry's indiscretions too but it doesn't stop the wider family, courtiers etc treating him as less important and that is the part that affects a child growing up. The actions of the many far outweigh the actions of the few

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Yes like when he was 21 in America shagging a 32 year old mother of two that boy as only had a life of misery, so yourself a favour and think about what you are writing.

If you want to think about how life is bad for someone think about the parents of those kids who just died falling through ice or a 4 year old girl who drowned in a public swimming pool while her mum took her two other kids to the toilet

Those things are terrible but have nothing to do with this discussion. There will always be people who are worse off than others in this world but you can't "win" a debate by saying that

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

There are countless articles online by Royal Biographers that highlight it. William was always favoured as the Heir to the Throne....The Queen Mother always wanted William by her side, bever Harry. There is a reason all the "spares" go off the rails, Margaret, Andrew and now Harry....they are aware from a very young age that their presence is not as important to anyone as their older sibling. I don't care how many privileges or how much money they have, a child needs equal treatment to their siblings in order for no resentment to build. They were born in to wealth, that was always there.....they needed more love, affection and affirmation if their place in the family and nurturing and telling they were as important. I think its very telling how the 2nd siblings all apear to be the most troubled and spoilt. You can tell the difference in the Cambridge kids.....at the moment George is the most solemn whereas Charlotte and Louis are more carefree and mischievous much Harry was as a kid .....George is already being groomed for his future role whereas the others are being allowed to be kids. I think (hope) William and Kate's parenting is much different though, far more hands on and so hopefully Charlotte particulalry won't feel the "Spare".

The Queen is said to have treated them very differently.....although she loved them equally.

Sorry but I just don't buy it, I think Harry was SPOILED after Diana died and he was happy to be the spare and could let loose, the oldest child in any family tends to be the sensible one and the children who come after are given much more freedom as the eldest generally tests the water for the rest, its only in later life he has become bitter about it egged on by his awful wife

[Cherie]

Every parent in the world makes mistakes there is no perfect parent out there, the good thing for 99% of us is that our kids will never try to humiliate or embarrass us for money `

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Those things are terrible but have nothing to do with this discussion. There will always be people who are worse off than others in this world but you can't "win" a debate by saying that

I can because there are people who are not living just surviving being tortured in their own head every day
Then you have a spoiled bastard claiming their life is hard
Give me a fcuking break

He has been paid millions to cry about how bad his life was and they both have layed it on extra thick

Look at that prick before Meghan came along he was happy, happy with his family happy being a royal happy with his brother and sister inlaw but when he got with that chancer things fell apart

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Sherry hic mas

Sorry but I just don't buy it, I think Harry was SPOILED after Diana died and he was happy to be the spare and could let loose, the oldest child in any family tends to be the sensible one and the children who come after are given much more freedom as the eldest generally tests the water for the rest, its only in later life he has become bitter about it egged on by his awful wife

That's fine - the articles are there but you don't have to buy it. You asked for evidence and there are a number of articles and comments by trusted royal commentators was my whole point of quoting you.

Of course he was happier and carefree when he was younger(aren't most of us?) - as was Margaret and as was Andrew. With maturity comes retrospect and then you can look back and see things were not quite as rosy as you believed at the time.

I am sure he has been egged on by Meghan - she is American and most Americans have all been in therapy for years and look for reasons to blame their behaviour and actions on

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I can because there are people who are not living just surviving being tortured in their own head every day
Then you have a spoiled bastard claiming their life is hard
Give me a fcuking break

He has been paid millions to cry about how bad his life was and they both have layed it on extra thick

Look at that prick before Meghan came along he was happy, happy with his family happy being a royal happy with his brother and sister inlaw but when he got with that chancer things fell apart

You are obviously very angry about him, judging by your language so I will leave it there with this discussion with you.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

That's fine - the articles are there but you don't have to buy it. You asked for evidence and there are a number of articles and comments by trusted royal commentators was my whole point of quoting you.

Of course he was happier and carefree when he was younger(aren't most of us?) - as was Margaret and as was Andrew. With maturity comes retrospect and then you can look back and see things were not quite as rosy as you believed at the time.

I am sure he has been egged on by Meghan - she is American and most Americans have all been in therapy for years and look for reasons to blame their behaviour and actions on

This made me laugh from the carol concert last night

The King, Queen Consort, Prince of Wales, Prince George, Princess Charlotte, Princess of Wales and Countess of Wessex were pictured front and centre at the concert, holding candles while singing from the same hymn sheet.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

You are obviously very angry about him, judging by your language so I will leave it there with this discussion with you.

I’m not the Incredible Hulk angry
It’s a piss take, if you are getting paid 80 odd million you got to spice it up

Real people with real problems get my upmost respect the poor me of the worlds can do one.

[Swan]

So is their Netflix thing done now? If the ratings are decent im sure Netflix will look for a 2nd season.

Also, the timing for this release is pretty awful, that's why sympathy is at an all time low. I mean, we live in a funny old world!

Energy prices crippling people (coldest snap we've had in years too, a cruel irony)
Strikes all over the place
Services cut daily
All that and it's the most expensive time of the year

None of that is Harry and Meghan's fault, but Christ, if they're expecting sympathy all things considered, then they're obviously deluded.