[rusticgal]

Jeremy Clarkson apologises for remarks in a private message…but apology not good enough….

Harry demanding an apology from Charles and William for the way they treated Meghan…. Will an apology ever be good enough

[Cherie]

The Iranian regime has used Prince Harry's confession that he killed 25 Taliban in Afghanistan to take aim at Britain amid the escalating row over the execution of Alireza Akbari.

In a string of tweets criticising Britain's outrage over the killing of the British-Iranian dual national who was accused of spying, Iran claimed the country was 'in no position to preach'.

The official Twitter account of the Iran Foreign Ministry accused the Duke of Sussex of showing no remorse over the killings of 'innocent' lives and accused Britain of allowing this 'war crime'.

It said: 'The British regime, whose royal family member, sees the killing of 25 innocent people as removal of chess pieces and has no regrets over the issue, and those who turn a blind eye to this war crime, are in no position to preach others on human rights.'

The post was referring to a controversial passage about the death count from Harry's new memoir Spare which is already the subject of a mounting backlash.

The Iranian regime has used Prince Harry's confession that he killed 25 Taliban in Afghanistan to take aim at Britain amid the escalating row over the execution of Alireza Akbari (above)

[Glenn.]

Can see it’s being taken out of the context that’s actually present in the book .

[arista]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

[Crimson Dynamo]

the stupid ginger fool is a worldwide laughing stock

lol

[thesheriff443]

Didn’t he do well
Would love to see the look on Meghan’s face .

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Cherie

[Swan]

Originally Posted by arista

The mainstream left is turning on them now in the US then. Wow, never thought i'd see it. Just shows only their hardcore irrational worshippers, like the 2 or 3 on here, are going to put up with their constant me me me, cry cry cry hypocrisy crap.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Can see it’s being taken out of the context that’s actually present in the book .

Now you sound like Harry , he fed the media and wanted the attention....now he's all " ohhhh but it was taken out of context" . The press is literally just quoting his own words. If he doesn't like it ,then why did he release a silly book.

[arista]

[Prince Harry is dubbed 'a stupid boy'
as growing number of ex-top brass criticise him
for revealing his Taliban kill count
after Iran used it to justify hanging Brit citizen
amid growing row over 'maniacal' regime's bid
to excuse the execution]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...a-machine.html

[user104658]

"Used it to justify" is right, the idea that they weren't going to hang this person anyway is ludicrous, and I cannot get my head around people spending more energy focussed on criticising someone for something they wrote in a book than on the regime that actually executes people.

[bots]

iran is executing people in the hundreds and harry wrote a book .... like for like really

it just show how bad the media have become

[Liam-]

Look what Harry has done, first he killed Lizzie now he’s forcing the Iranians to execute people, the silly little boy!

[user104658]

I actually, at least somewhat, agree that he shouldn't have been quite so explicit in his detailing of his war kills (or at least, he should have provided more context about the thinking, and why soldiers often have to think that way to preserve their own mental health). That's on a personal level. I wouldn't have said the exact number and I would have given a lot more mental health context for the dehumanisation ("chess pieces") and why so many in the armed forces have to do it.

But seriously ... the messaging behind the tabloid spin on this is really quite sinister. It's basically saying "there are scary, violent people out there in the world who don't want you to say certain things, so we shouldn't say those things, as we might provoke them... we should keep our mouths shut, because who KNOWS what they might do, and it'll be all YOUR fault."

This is literally the goal of terrorism; to stifle speech and action with threats of violence and retribution. We're not supposed to cave to it. We're supposed to continue to live free, speak our minds, write whatever we want in our books. Not doing so out of fear of "what those bad people will do" is terrorism working, and it is WELL KNOWN that the #1 thing that encourages more terrorism, is an indication that terrorism is effective.

Harry is a free man who wrote about his own, personal, subjective experience of being a soldier in his own book. If violent groups and individuals do violent things because of that, that is on THEM, and all other soldiers should continue to write about their personal experiences of war undeterred. This is what "not giving in to terrorism" means.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Look what Harry has done, first he killed Lizzie now he’s forcing the Iranians to execute people, the silly little boy!

You are missing the point...these are tweets from Iran not manufactured tabloid spin...speaking about your military life is one thing giving tyrannical regimes like Iran the exact number of kills is insane, of course they were going to seize on it for propaganda ....loose lips sink ships

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You are missing the point...these are tweets from Iran not manufactured tabloid spin...speaking about your military life is one thing giving tyrannical regimes like Iran the exact number of kills is insane, of course they were going to seize on it for propaganda ....loose lips sink ships

Luckily there aren't any ex-soldiers who have written entire novels about their experiences of their time in the middle east or anything without any comment at all from the tabloids or "patriots", and it's just this one paragraph in Harry's book! Otherwise we might be in real trouble. Those terrorists would have us on the naughty step good 'n' proper . Sorry, terrorists and dictatorial regimes. I promise we won't do it again! Sorry, sorry...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I actually, at least somewhat, agree that he shouldn't have been quite so explicit in his detailing of his war kills (or at least, he should have provided more context about the thinking, and why soldiers often have to think that way to preserve their own mental health). That's on a personal level. I wouldn't have said the exact number and I would have given a lot more mental health context for the dehumanisation ("chess pieces") and why so many in the armed forces have to do it.

But seriously ... the messaging behind the tabloid spin on this is really quite sinister. It's basically saying "there are scary, violent people out there in the world who don't want you to say certain things, so we shouldn't say those things, as we might provoke them... we should keep our mouths shut, because who KNOWS what they might do, and it'll be all YOUR fault."

This is literally the goal of terrorism; to stifle speech and action with threats of violence and retribution. We're not supposed to cave to it. We're supposed to continue to live free, speak our minds, write whatever we want in our books. Not doing so out of fear of "what those bad people will do" is terrorism working, and it is WELL KNOWN that the #1 thing that encourages more terrorism, is an indication that terrorism is effective.

Harry is a free man who wrote about his own, personal, subjective experience of being a soldier in his own book. If violent groups and individuals do violent things because of that, that is on THEM, and all other soldiers should continue to write about their personal experiences of war undeterred. This is what "not giving in to terrorism" means.

Apples and Oranges ..Harry is not some random soldier who documents his story...how likely is that going to come to the attention of terrorist regimes

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Luckily there aren't any ex-soldiers who have written entire novels about their experiences of their time in the middle east or anything without any comment at all from the tabloids or "patriots", and it's just this one paragraph in Harry's book! Otherwise we might be in real trouble. Those terrorists would have us on the naughty step good 'n' proper . Sorry, terrorists and dictatorial regimes. I promise we won't do it again! Sorry, sorry...

With respect even if the tabloids dod not report it he has done innumerable interviews where it has been discussed

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

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Apples and Oranges ..Harry is not some random soldier who documents his story...how likely is that going to come to the attention of terrorist regimes

So you agree that the problem wasn't the paragraph in his book - the problem was the great honking spotlight that the media chose to shine on that paragraph. Quite right.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

So you agree that the problem wasn't the paragraph in his book - the problem was the great honking spotlight that the media chose to shine on that paragraph. Quite right.

No I dont agree with confirming the number of kills as you well know and that would go for any author

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

With respect even if the tabloids dod not report it he has done innumerable interviews where it has been discussed

It's been brought up by the interviewers because of the press attention it's gathered. And if you substitute "press attention" with "media attention" it amounts to the same; if any of these media outlets were as concerned as they pretend to be about the potential consequences of Harry's words, they wouldn't have them on our screens or front pages.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Cherie

With respect even if the tabloids dod not report it he has done innumerable interviews where it has been discussed

"Harry’s comments are also reminiscent of a separate controversy during a 2013 interview where he compared his control of the weapons system as a “joy,” likening it to “playing PlayStation and Xbox,” according to the Guardian".

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No I dont agree with confirming the number of kills as you well know and that would go for any author

But you loosely agree that part of the issue here is that a spotlight was put on those words and it was drawn to the attention of these groups because of the world media attention, and that would not be the case if (when) someone else writes the same sort of words.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

It's been brought up by the interviewers because of the press attention it's gathered. And if you substitute "press attention" with "media attention" it amounts to the same; if any of these media outlets were as concerned as they pretend to be about the potential consequences of Harry's words, they wouldn't have them on our screens or front pages.

Harry will have agreed on what questions he will be asked about

You can blame the media all you like but he signed off on it to sell books