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Originally Posted by Cherie

Clearly this was a bullying issue nothing to do with the colour of the girls skin :skull:

How do we know though for sure ?..... obviously the media will assume it is as the headline always does that , but I think these kids are probably bullying everyone in their school. And people are saying this is 'common in schools' ....but how many jump 1 person with the mother cheering & egging them on .... Whilst it's being filmed??. Wasn't this after school aswell, imagine you're going home and you get jumped by a bunch of kids from your school .

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

How do we know though for sure ?..... obviously the media will assume it is as the headline always does that , but I think these kids are probably bullying everyone in their school. And people are saying this is 'common in schools' ....but how many jump 1 person with the mother cheering & egging them on .... Whilst it's being filmed??. Wasn't this after school aswell, imagine you're going home and you get jumped by a bunch of kids from your school .

I am not condoning it I just think from the footage I have sent that it is some sort of revenge attack rather than a race element, I mean they are travellers they suffer more racist abuse than most

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Originally Posted by Cherie

I am not condoning it I just think from the footage I have sent that it is some sort of revenge attack rather than a race element, I mean they are travellers they suffer more racist abuse than most

Cherie it was confirmed that there was racism . Believe it or not minorities attack other minorities,this isn't exactly a new thing. Look at how racist china is towards black people.

I knew this would happen = "oh they're travellers so they suffer racist abuse " ( is that supposed to make it less awful? ) .... If anything that makes it worse !!! as they should know what it's like to be treated like that . funny thing is these same gypsies will probably cry when they get racist abuse ...yet they think it's ok to racially abuse others.

It's hypocrisy at it's best , why don't they learn to read and write instead of fighting... so many of these kids can't even spell yet they they can swear and be vile and attack other kids.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Cherie it was confirmed that there was racism . Believe it or not minorities attack other minorities,this isn't exactly a new thing. Look at how racist china is towards black people.

Where and when was it confirmed? An arrest isn't proof.

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Where and when was it confirmed? An arrest isn't proof.

I know the media always pushes certain agendas ... believe me I know, but i heard that apparently the bullies were being racist,I hope we find out more about it though.

Also I don't know why they're saying not to post the video online,when that's literally how most of us have seen it ....so it's a bit late now ,so I don't know why they've blurred out 1 of the girls .

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I know the media always pushes certain agendas ... believe me I know, but i heard that apparently the bullies were being racist,I hope we find out more about it though.

Where did you hear that?

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Also what did people want to hear in the video ?? Full blown racist slurs as 'proof' or something?? ,bear in mind it's a short clip ...who knows what they've said off camera and for how many weeks ??. I'm guessing the bullied girl retaliated ...in the video it looks more like she's defending herself against a literal mob.

Also will be interesting to know how diverse the school actually is ,the area looked quite posh .

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Also what did people want to hear in the video ?? Full blown racist slurs as 'proof' or something?? ,bear in mind it's a short clip ...who knows what they've said off camera and for how many weeks ??. I'm guessing the bullied girl retaliated ...in the video it looks more like she's defending herself against a literal mob.

You claimed it was confirmed I assumed you had more information than ... an arrest.

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

You claimed it was confirmed I assumed you had more information than ... an arrest.

Like I said hopefully we'll find out more .

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Cherie it was confirmed that there was racism . Believe it or not minorities attack other minorities,this isn't exactly a new thing. Look at how racist china is towards black people.

I knew this would happen = "oh they're travellers so they suffer racist abuse " ( is that supposed to make it less awful? ) .... If anything that makes it worse !!! as they should know what it's like to be treated like that . funny thing is these same gypsies will probably cry when they get racist abuse ...yet they think it's ok to racially abuse others.

It's hypocrisy at it's best , why don't they learn to read and write instead of fighting... so many of these kids can't even spell yet they they can swear and be vile and attack other kids.

Its not been confirmed at all...the family are claiming racism, its far more likely to an issue between the younger girl in uniform in the clip and the victim....its highly unlikely the family would turn up mob handed to attack some random outside the school

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Its not been confirmed at all...the family are claiming racism, its far more likely to an issue between the younger girl in uniform in the clip and the victim....its highly unlikely the family would turn up mob handed to attack some random outside the school

Well it will be interesting to see what the girl herself says...if she confirms it was racism she experienced would you then believe it?? . Maybe the girl told her family it was racism ??.

Yeah I very much believe these chavs would bully anyone , but I still I don't know why you think them being gypsies would stop them being racist themselves . People are hypocrites ... simply as that . They'll cry abuse but then they'll be prejudice themselves.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Well it will be interesting to see what the girl herself says...if she confirms it was racism she experienced would you then believe it?? . Maybe the girl told her family it was racism ??.

Yeah I very much believe these chavs would bully anyone , but I still I don't know why you think them being gypsies would stop them being racist themselves . People are hypocrites ... simply as that . They'll cry abuse but then they'll be prejudice themselves.

If you look at the video again towards the end the Mum is saying something about Downs Syndrome ..and handicapped so it looks like its kicked off over a disabled child

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Its not been confirmed at all...the family are claiming racism, its far more likely to an issue between the younger girl in uniform in the clip and the victim....its highly unlikely the family would turn up mob handed to attack some random outside the school

Also if we take the race out of it and put that to the side on both ends , even if the quarrel is between 1 gypsy girl and 1 black girl ...why did the entire traveller family feel the need to get involved including the mother egging it on..... What a good example .

Usually when school fights happen it's 1 on 1 , yes gangs bully one person... usually name calling etc or little pushes here and there . But in all my life ....I don't think I've ever seen a fight in my childhood or teens on that scale . I'm not saying it didn't happen ,but I've never seen the family get involved including the bliddy parents!!! .

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Also if we take the race out of it and put that to the side on both ends , even if the quarrel is between 1 gypsy girl and 1 black girl ...why did the entire traveller family feel the need to get involved including the mother egging it on..... What a good example .

Usually when school fights happen it's 1 on 1 , yes gangs bully one person... usually name calling etc or little pushes here and there . But in all my life ....I don't think I've ever seen a fight in my childhood or teens on that scale . I'm not saying it didn't happen ,but I've never seen the family get involved including the bliddy parents!!! .

I haven’t condoned this attack at any point...

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Originally Posted by Cherie

I haven’t condoned this attack at any point...

Cherie ....I never heard anything about a disabled child . Also are they saying the disabled child is fighting in the video or off camera?? ...I'm confused. You say it's a 'revenge' attack ,is she watching her beloved family kick a girl's head in ...all in the name of ' defending her ' ??. I'm not convinced.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

...why did the entire traveller family feel the need to get involved including the mother egging it on.....

I'm going to delicately suggest you haven't really seen much of travelers when they're angered ...

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I'm going to delicately suggest you haven't really seen much of travelers when they're angered ...

Actually I have ! , Doesn't do them any favours to behave in that manner.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Cherie it was confirmed that there was racism . Believe it or not minorities attack other minorities,this isn't exactly a new thing. Look at how racist china is towards black people.

I knew this would happen = "oh they're travellers so they suffer racist abuse " ( is that supposed to make it less awful? ) .... If anything that makes it worse !!! as they should know what it's like to be treated like that . funny thing is these same gypsies will probably cry when they get racist abuse ...yet they think it's ok to racially abuse others.

It's hypocrisy at it's best , why don't they learn to read and write instead of fighting... so many of these kids can't even spell yet they they can swear and be vile and attack other kids.

Please quote the racist abuse you hear in the video.

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Please quote the racist abuse you hear in the video.

Are you deliberately ignoring what I say or just playing dumb ?? , I never said I heard racist abuse in the video itself. I said off camera ... racist stuff could have been said maybe even from both sides . And they knew they were being filmed anyway,so they're not going to blurt it out in the video itself.

If the police are saying it's 'racially aggravated' ,that tells me there's some form of evidence .

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Are you deliberately ignoring what I say or just playing dumb ?? , I never said I heard racist abuse in the video itself. I said off camera ... racist stuff could have been said maybe even from both sides . And they knew they were being filmed anyway,so they're not going to blurt it out in the video itself.

If the police are saying it's 'racially aggravated' ,that tells me there's some form of evidence .

You are a living contradiction, going on about racism being unacceptable whilst calling travellers gypsies.

You have went from saying its a confirmed racial attack to saying it could have been racial from both sides.

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Originally Posted by parmnion

You are a living contradiction, going on about racism being unacceptable whilst calling travellers gypsies.

You have went from saying its a confirmed racial attack to saying it could have been racial from both sides.

Oh so now it's wrong to say gypsies??? ... gypsies themselves say gypsy , aswell as traveller.

I guess you also think it's offensive to say 'siamese twins' , don't forget to say conjoined twins instead .

Imagine acting like being PC is important .... whilst expecting to hear racist slurs like the N word in a video with bullies.

I said both the black girl and the traveller girl could have been racist towards eachother, how is that a contradiction??? .

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I am not condoning it I just think from the footage I have sent that it is some sort of revenge attack rather than a race element, I mean they are travellers they suffer more racist abuse than most

Well said cherie.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

How do we know though for sure ?..... obviously the media will assume it is as the headline always does that , but I think these kids are probably bullying everyone in their school. And people are saying this is 'common in schools' ....but how many jump 1 person with the mother cheering & egging them on .... Whilst it's being filmed??. Wasn't this after school aswell, imagine you're going home and you get jumped by a bunch of kids from your school .

We can assume it's because the black girl was a bully, because one of the girls tells her this is for bullying (insert name) At nompomt did anyone use the N word or refer to her skin colour.

Ain't it a shame when a bully gets bullied..no, no it's not.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by parmnion

We can assume it's because the black girl was a bully, because one of the girls tells her this is for bullying (insert name) At nompomt did anyone use the N word or refer to her skin colour.

Ain't it a shame when a bully gets bullied..no, no it's not.

can you hear something about Down Syndrome just before the fight is stopped?she calls her a spas...dont want to say that word surprised I could type it out....but there was a mention of Downs before that?

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

can you hear something about Down Syndrome just before the fight is stopped?she calls her a spas...dont want to say that word surprised I could type it out....but there was a mention of Downs before that?

I did here that, It sounded like the mother