[Swan]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

See Swan?

Yes, but if the same was said and **** Hopkins, you accept it...

[jet]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I find it peculiar that so many people spend so much of their time discussing them when they find them so pathetic. That’s what riles me. Like if you don’t like something on the telly, you switch it off and find something else to watch.

Then quit moaning about what other people are doing and don't read these threads. You can't control other people, but you can control yourself.

[jet]

Their defenders cry is always "it's just tabloid fodder". It isn't.

They are thoroughly dislikeable people who the public can’t stand not because of tabloid fodder, but because of their own actions and what comes out of their own mouths and what they themselves write in their own words.

Just one example from Harry’s book - this post from another site says it very well….

["The bit about the matron is horrible:
"Unlike other matrons, Pat wasn't hot. Pat was cold. Pat was small, mousy, frazzled and her hair fell greasily into her always tired eyes. Pat didn't seem to get much joy out of life."
Harry goes on to describe that she did enjoy catching boys being naughty and was "empathy challenged" when dealing with boys' minor cuts. He says Pat had many crosses to bear.
"The biggest being her knees and spine. The latter was crooked, the former chronically stiff. Walking was hard, stairs were torture. She'd descend backwards, glacially. Often we'd stand on the landing below her, doing antic dances, making faces. Do I need to say who did this with the most enthusiasm?"
He doesn't show any remorse but instead excuses it because he did it to make his friends laugh.
It's astonishing isn't it that he can write this with no deeper reflection on how the poor woman must have felt to have him mock her and that her laughter might have been a defence mechanism against the bullying taunts she'd probably endured before. I wonder if she's still living or has family. Imagine the hurt to be described in this unflattering and unkind manner so publicly."]

What are your thoughts on this, Glenn?....amd Jordan?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I find it peculiar that so many people spend so much of their time discussing them when they find them so pathetic. That’s what riles me. Like if you don’t like something on the telly, you switch it off and find something else to watch.

That's so 2015.

But seriously I agree with you, nothing personal against anyone on this thread, but I remember back in the early 10's where people would either ignore the things that they didn't like by and large, or make some "edgy" jokes about the things that they didn't like.

Nowadays though people seem to get obsessed with the things that they don't like, which imo isn't the most healthy attitude to have.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I find it peculiar that so many people spend so much of their time discussing them when they find them so pathetic. That’s what riles me. Like if you don’t like something on the telly, you switch it off and find something else to watch.

That's why South Park also mocked their critics.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by jet

Their defenders cry is always "it's just tabloid fodder". It isn't.

They are thoroughly dislikeable people who the public can’t stand not because of tabloid fodder, but because of their own actions and what comes out of their own mouths and what they themselves write in their own words.

Just one example from Harry’s book - this post from another site says it very well….

["The bit about the matron is horrible:
"Unlike other matrons, Pat wasn't hot. Pat was cold. Pat was small, mousy, frazzled and her hair fell greasily into her always tired eyes. Pat didn't seem to get much joy out of life."
Harry goes on to describe that she did enjoy catching boys being naughty and was "empathy challenged" when dealing with boys' minor cuts. He says Pat had many crosses to bear.
"The biggest being her knees and spine. The latter was crooked, the former chronically stiff. Walking was hard, stairs were torture. She'd descend backwards, glacially. Often we'd stand on the landing below her, doing antic dances, making faces. Do I need to say who did this with the most enthusiasm?"
He doesn't show any remorse but instead excuses it because he did it to make his friends laugh.
It's astonishing isn't it that he can write this with no deeper reflection on how the poor woman must have felt to have him mock her and that her laughter might have been a defence mechanism against the bullying taunts she'd probably endured before. I wonder if she's still living or has family. Imagine the hurt to be described in this unflattering and unkind manner so publicly."]

What are your thoughts on this, Glenn?....amd Jordan?

What point are you trying to make exactly? How is him speaking about the matron any different than how you speak about him and his wife? You judge him for what you have spent years doing yourself. You have zero self awareness.

And it definitely is tabloid fodder. It’s a cesspit of inaccuracies that are treated as fact by yourself and many others.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

That's why South Park also mocked their critics.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I find it peculiar that so many people spend so much of their time discussing them when they find them so pathetic. That’s what riles me. Like if you don’t like something on the telly, you switch it off and find something else to watch.

It’s called KARMA….

[jet]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

What point are you trying to make exactly? How is him speaking about the matron any different than how you speak about him and his wife? You judge him for what you have spent years doing yourself. You have zero self awareness.

And it definitely is tabloid fodder. It’s a cesspit of inaccuracies that are treated as fact by yourself and many others.

If you really believe that there is no difference between what Harry says and what I and other detractors say, why do you criticise us and not him?
.....and there is a massive difference, criticism of them is well deserved and I’m not directly laughing and mocking H&M to their faces and boasting about it. He trashes his own family in interviews, on Netlix and in a book but that's different is it? How is it different?

If H&M are the kind of people whose actions you like and admire, it's odd but fine by me, but you really need to let go of the obsessive need to denigrate those who don't like them. It's weird.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by jet

If you really believe that there is no difference between what Harry says and what I and other detractors say, why do you criticise us and not him?
.....and there is a massive difference, criticism of them is well deserved and I’m not directly laughing and mocking H&M to their faces and boasting about it. He trashes his own family in interviews, on Netlix and in a book but that's different is it? How is it different?

If H&M are the kind of people whose actions you like and admire, it's odd but fine by me, but you really need to let go of the obsessive need to denigrate those who don't like them. It's weird.

Have you ever considered that the royal family just aren’t very nice people? You say he trashes his family, what makes you think it isn’t deserved? They are very peculiar

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by jet

Then quit moaning about what other people are doing and don't read these threads. You can't control other people, but you can control yourself.

Yup…why come on these threads moaning about people you don’t like moaning about people you don’t care about…switch off. You couldn’t make it up

[jet]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Have you ever considered that the royal family just aren’t very nice people? You say he trashes his family, what makes you think it isn’t deserved? They are very peculiar

Have you ever stopped to think that Harry and Meghan aren't very nice people?
What makes you think the criticism of H&M isn't deserved?

They are proven liars, they have lied over and over again but you'll never admit that, you are obsessed by thoughts of how hard done by the poor victims are and you have to defend them from the hated TIBB baddies. Waste of time.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

They got Jet spot on

No they didn't, I wouldn't be seen dead in that stupid green hat.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by jet

Have you ever stopped to think that Harry and Meghan aren't very nice people?
What makes you think the criticism of H&M isn't deserved?

They are proven liars, they have lied over and over again but you'll never admit that, you are obsessed by thoughts of how hard done by the poor victims are and you have to defend them from the hated TIBB baddies. Waste of time.

I can honestly say, hand on heart say they don’t deserve the level of criticism they get. It’s unhinged.

There’s literally nothing you can say that will change my mind on how unhinged it is. The fact you can’t see that is alarming.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I can honestly say, hand on heart say they don’t deserve the level of criticism they get. It’s unhinged.

There’s literally nothing you can say that will change my mind on how unhinged it is. The fact you can’t see that is alarming.

Some people just have no shame in terrifying a woman like this

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Some people just have no shame in terrifying a woman like this

That is from what is now dubbed as the 'Ultimate Victim Docu' where you were apparently so scared for your life that you later mocked meeting the Queen with an exaggerated curtsey accompained by a creepy smirk.
Literally nobody wants to kill you Meghan dear.
They will just keep uncovering your lies, hypocrisy, attention seeking and fakery until you quit the BS and the dramatic victim acts.

You haven’t even been blessed with an egg being thrown at you, which must be disappointing for a dedicated victim.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by jet

That is from what is now dubbed as the 'Ultimate Victim Docu' where you were apparently so scared for your life that you later mocked meeting the Queen with an exaggerated curtsey accompained by a creepy smirk.
Literally nobody wants to kill you Meghan dear.
They will just keep uncovering your lies, hypocrisy, attention seeking and fakery until you quit the BS and the dramatic victim acts.

You haven’t even been blessed with an egg being thrown at you, which must be disappointing for a dedicated victim.

As usual you are wrong

[jet]

Nobody wants to literally kill her, she’s not an important enough figure, she’s never had even a minor security incident. Any online threats from nutters would have been dealt with and a risk assessment carried out. If she didn’t get prompt high level security from RPO’s, no matter where she was living, as Harry’s wife, then she wasn’t considered to be in danger.
The prominent Royals, who are important figures, get death threats regularly, they always have, intensified now by H&M’s attacks. Did you ever see them blubbering dramatically about it?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...xtremists.html

Harry and Meghan's Netflix documentary 'is putting royal family at risk from extremists': Ex head of royal protection Dai Davies says couple raised 'credible threat' after attacking their relatives over racism

…..and George R Franks, who is an associate professor at Stephen F Austin University in Texas and a former police officer, also raised concerns about the documentary.
He said: 'I have been studying their increasingly tenacious attack on the character of the royals and the institution of the monarchy for the past several months with a growing concern for the safety of the members of the "working royals", but also for the children of the Prince and Princess of Wales.
'I have experience with cases where individuals have committed or attempted to commit violent crimes in support of the cause of another towards whom they have become enamoured and protective.

[rusticgal]

No sympathy for them...they made their own bed by choosing the path they did by making money exposing private things about their family...all warped and exaggerated for maximum effect.
Now the tables have turned and they dont like it...no one deserves death threats but sadly in the world we live in on Social media it happens if you say and do something thats deemed offensive.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Nobody wants to literally kill her, she’s not an important enough figure, she’s never had even a minor security incident. Any online threats from nutters would have been dealt with and a risk assessment carried out. If she didn’t get prompt high level security from RPO’s, no matter where she was living, as Harry’s wife, then she wasn’t considered to be in danger.
The prominent Royals, who are important figures, get death threats regularly, they always have, intensified now by H&M’s attacks. Did you ever see them blubbering dramatically about it?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...xtremists.html

Harry and Meghan's Netflix documentary 'is putting royal family at risk from extremists': Ex head of royal protection Dai Davies says couple raised 'credible threat' after attacking their relatives over racism

…..and George R Franks, who is an associate professor at Stephen F Austin University in Texas and a former police officer, also raised concerns about the documentary.
He said: 'I have been studying their increasingly tenacious attack on the character of the royals and the institution of the monarchy for the past several months with a growing concern for the safety of the members of the "working royals", but also for the children of the Prince and Princess of Wales.
'I have experience with cases where individuals have committed or attempted to commit violent crimes in support of the cause of another towards whom they have become enamoured and protective.

I'm sorry jet but how on Earth can you make a statement like that with such certainty? You couldn't possibly know that

[jet]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

No sympathy for them...they made their own bed by choosing the path they did by making money exposing private things about their family...all warped and exaggerated for maximum effect.
Now the tables have turned and they dont like it...no one deserves death threats but sadly in the world we live in on Social media it happens if you say and do something thats deemed offensive.

[Liam-]

When a security expert tells you, he witnessed the level of hatred for her and the actual real danger of physical harm she was in, but refuse to believe it because you hate her so much that nobody else can be wrong, you should really take a look at yourself and realise that’s what people are talking about when they lambast the delusional, over the top hatred people have for them, it’s completely irrational and frankly, really quite dangerous

[jet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm sorry jet but how on Earth can you make a statement like that with such certainty? You couldn't possibly know that

It's literally my opinion.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jet

It's literally my opinion.

It's kind of a dangerous opinion to think you know what goes on in the minds of people who make death threats towards other people. No one really knows if these threats are serious until it's either too late or they're caught trying to do something. The fact that she's not "important" is exactly why these nutters target her, "how dare this unimportant uppity woman smear our very important royals" That's exactly the reason she could be an actual target.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Liam-

When a security expert tells you, he witnessed the level of hatred for her and the actual real danger of physical harm she was in, but refuse to believe it because you hate her so much that nobody else can be wrong, you should really take a look at yourself and realise that’s what people are talking about when they lambast the delusional, over the top hatred people have for them, it’s completely irrational and frankly, really quite dangerous

I didn't say I didn't believe them? I said she was in no real danger as the threats were dealt with, a risk assessment was carried out and it wasn't deemed neccesary to give her a RPO. I'll go by what the experts think, not what you think.