[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

But in the process you choose to ignore the fact that just because something is "rare" doesn't mean that it should be swept aside when considering safeguarding concerns. Whether you mean it to or not, it simply comes across as not really giving a **** about women's safety in the name of "inclusivity".

By all means show me where I said it should be swept aside

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

By all means show me where I said it should be swept aside

I didn't say you said it should be swept aside - I said you do sweep it aside. You minimise it and brand it not important, by constantly responding with little more than "it's rare". But that defeats the entire premise of the thing you're arguing for; trans people wanting the use of women's shelters, toilets and changing areas is also relatively rare.

[Vanessa]

I don't believe that all trans people are predators.
There are bad people everywhere.
In this case it was a women's refuge, it should be women only.
Otherwise it's not safe.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I don't believe that all trans people are predators.
There are bad people everywhere.
In this case it was a women's refuge, it should be women only.
Otherwise it's not safe.

Some people would argue that transwomen are women, so should be in their shelters :eyeroll:

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Some people would argue that transwomen are women, so should be in their shelters :eyeroll:

They should open a shelter for trans women, as that would solve the issue. It's just too much of a risk to say yes to every 'trans woman ' into a women's only shelter.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

They should open a shelter for trans women, as that would solve the issue. It's just too much of a risk to say yes to every 'trans woman ' into a women's only shelter.

As is being pointed out, transwomen needed to be sheltered is pretty rare. Too rare to justify setting up a facility just for them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

As is being pointed out, transwomen needed to be sheltered is pretty rare. Too rare to justify setting up a facility just for them.

How many people in Scotland have gender dysphoria?

It was found that about 300 transsexual people are known to be in treatment in
Scotland and the prevalence of the condition was found to be 8 / 100,000. The
Harry Benjamin International Gender Dysphoria Association produces
Standards of Care for treatment of gender dysphoria.

Scottish Population is 5,520,000

https://www.scotphn.net/wp-content/u..._Dysphoria.pdf

@SNP

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

As is being pointed out, transwomen needed to be sheltered is pretty rare. Too rare to justify setting up a facility just for them.

But they have to do something to stop this happening again??. What's to stop an abusive ex of one of these female victims... posing as a woman, and using a different name to gain access to his victim?!.

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

They should open a shelter for trans women, as that would solve the issue. It's just too much of a risk to say yes to every 'trans woman ' into a women's only shelter.

I agree, I think it's too risky. Because some men will take advantage of it.