[user104658]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

The reality of this situation is
It’s only because his brother was convicted of being a pedophile that this story has finally come out otherwise it would be all smiles

Largely have to agree with that - I don't think he feels bad about or regrets the relationship in any meaningful way, he's devastated that it's become public knowledge. When he talks about his regrets over "making a mistake" he's thinking "I made a mistake and ruined my career" not "I made a mistake by having a genuinly problematic relationship".

Like I'm sure he does regret it ... because it's ruined something he worked for many years for. "I shouldn't have done it ... because it ended up being bad for me" is not "real" regret though.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Largely have to agree with that - I don't think he feels bad about or regrets the relationship in any meaningful way, he's devastated that it's become public knowledge. When he talks about his regrets over "making a mistake" he's thinking "I made a mistake and ruined my career" not "I made a mistake by having a genuinly problematic relationship".

Like I'm sure he does regret it ... because it's ruined something he worked for many years for. "I shouldn't have done it ... because it ended up being bad for me" is not "real" regret though.

Well it's not actually acknowledging what you did was wrong, is it? It's just saying you regret getting caught. I started listening to the interview but I had to turn it off when he said the only reason he was doing the interview was for the benefit of that boy.........yeah right.

[Rustic bauble]

The higher you climb the harder you fall...
If you are a public figure earning a great deal of money in the public domain then you do the right things in life or you can lose everything at the drop of a hat.
Dont take drugs...don't lie and have affairs and don't commit a crime...and if you do you have no one but yourself to blame

[Kazanne]

I think the media /press etc,should leave him alone now,most of the accustations are born from hearsay and chinese whispers,Yes he supposedly did wrong,he has admitted and apologised,there is no need to persecute him like this, we were not there or privvy to conversations or actions,he has daughters who love him and its not fair the hate and vitriole they have to see about thier dad, who are we to judge anyones life style ? This is why i hate the press etc,they just revel in someones downfall.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well it's not actually acknowledging what you did was wrong, is it? It's just saying you regret getting caught. I started listening to the interview but I had to turn it off when he said the only reason he was doing the interview was for the benefit of that boy.........yeah right.

It's smelling even more now to me.

I don't like trial by media and they do get it wrong usually.
I wish we'd had it more in the days of Saville however.

I honestly cannot think what to say of Schofield or if he's being in any way honest never mind fully so.
He's now chosen to involve more and even use the media to say what he wishes.
Sadly he's opened the door to greater media intrusion for all concerned.

Because even in this interview, after admitting he'd knew the boy for a fair while in contact with him.
He still had to think what age he was when he engaged in sex, and repeatedly so with him.

I have to more agree, it's more of regret at getting caught out than real regret for his deceit, lies and even likely gross unprofessional conduct at least.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I think the media /press etc,should leave him alone now,most of the accustations are born from hearsay and chinese whispers,Yes he supposedly did wrong,he has admitted and apologised,there is no need to persecute him like this, we were not there or privvy to conversations or actions,he has daughters who love him and its not fair the hate and vitriole they have to see about thier dad, who are we to judge anyones life style ? This is why i hate the press etc,they just revel in someones downfall.

I do SORT OF mostly agree as I said above that what has happened "is enough" (he'll no longer be working in the public eye that's for sure), although I'd reiterate that he could just quietly step away and wait for the storm to pass instead of appearing in big interviews ... he is part of keeping the conversation going in doing that and as I said, seems to be trying to save his media career, which seems like any "admitting it and apologising" is not really genuine it's self-serving.

Also the bit in bold I honestly again have to object to. Adults befriending children and then entering into sexual relationships with them as soon as they hit their late teens should not be normalised as a simple "lifestyle choice".

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It's smelling even more now to me.

I don't like trial by media and they do get it wrong usually.
I wish we'd had it more in the days of Saville however.

I honestly cannot think what to say of Schofield or if he's being in any way honest never mind fully so.
He's now chosen to involve more and even use the media to say what he wishes.
Sadly he's opened the door to greater media intrusion for all concerned.

Because even in this interview, after admitting he'd knew the boy for a fair while in contact with him.
He still had to think what age he was when he engaged in sex, and repeatedly so with him.

I have to more agree, it's more of regret at getting caught out than real regret for his deceit, lies and even likely gross unprofessional conduct at least.

Yeah I don't know about you Joey ,but I find it suspicious and weird how he was thinking about the age of the boy at the time they got into a intimate 'relationship'. Rumours were flying around that he started something with the boy when he was between the ages of 16-18 . But Schofield is now making out it was when the boy was 19 or 20 ?? Hmm I'm not convinced. .

He followed him on Twitter when he was 15 ,he says the boy asked him to . He technically met him when he was 10 . It just has groomer vibes all over . Even if it's not intended to be that way ,he himself knew it was wrong to start something with the boy. There's that power of abuse .

I just can't imagine getting someone a job who I've known since they were a kid , helping them and then starting a fling with them . It's so innapropriate and looks dodgy.

[bots]

It's not as big a **** show as the Andrew interview, but it certainly had that vibe. People have become wise to these "set the record straight" type interviews

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Yeah I don't know about you Joey ,but I find it suspicious and weird how he was thinking about the age of the boy at the time they got into a intimate 'relationship'. Rumours were flying around that he started something with the boy when he was between the ages of 16-18 . But Schofield is now making out it was when the boy was 19 or 20 ?? Hmm I'm not convinced. .

He followed him on Twitter when he was 15 ,he says the boy asked him to . He technically met him when he was 10 . It just has groomer vibes all over . Even if it's not intended to be that way ,he himself knew it was wrong to start something with the boy. There's that power of abuse .

I just can't imagine getting someone a job who I've known since they were a kid , helping them and then starting a fling with them . It's so innapropriate and looks dodgy.

I agree with all that.

He even said in the interview he gave.
That the guy had only been working on This morning for a few months.
Then that they were alone in a dressing room and Schofield stated, '' something happened''.

For goodness sake.
Even on that small segment, while admitting he was talking about helping him into TV work.
He got him onto This Morning and within a very short space of time was engaging in sex with him.
It honestly sounds, more and more like it was a plan all along.

You're right it was wrong to even think about starting any sexual relationship with this boy never mind act on it.

I'm fast losing the small amount of any sympathy I may have already had for Schofield actually.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

The interview was a PR stunt

nothing more

nothing less

[arista]

[arista]

Nice of Holly
to take her Mum on Holiday


[As the scandal over her co-host rumbles
on in the UK,
the mother-of-three, 42,
looked delighted to be on a break
in the Algarve where the sun was
shining, and the temperature hit 25C (77f).]

[user104658]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree with all that.

He even said in the interview he gave.
That the guy had only been working on This morning for a few months.
Then that they were alone in a dressing room and Schofield stated, '' something happened''.

For goodness sake.
Even on that small segment, while admitting he was talking about helping him into TV work.
He got him onto This Morning and within a very short space of time was engaging in sex with him.
It honestly sounds, more and more like it was a plan all along.

You're right it was wrong to even think about starting any sexual relationship with this boy never mind act on it.

I'm fast losing the small amount of any sympathy I may have already had for Schofield actually.

The thing is, even if it wasn't... even if it was sparked out of the young lad's love for/admiration of him and he "made the first move", even if Philip had no intentions of it going there -- as the 50+ year old fairly high profile individual in a position of power and authority who got him the job, he had a very clear duty of care & responsibility to shut that down immediately as inappropriate. As he says himself there is no excuse. But it sounds a whole lot like he goes on to make excuses.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The thing is, even if it wasn't... even if it was sparked out of the young lad's love for/admiration of him and he "made the first move", even if Philip had no intentions of it going there -- as the 50+ year old fairly high profile individual in a position of power and authority who got him the job, he had a very clear duty of care & responsibility to shut that down immediately as inappropriate. As he says himself there is no excuse. But it sounds a whole lot like he goes on to make excuses.

Absolutely right.

..... AND let it and had it continue too.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

yes you are a GROOMER Phil

Youtube video

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I think the media /press etc,should leave him alone now,most of the accustations are born from hearsay and chinese whispers,Yes he supposedly did wrong,he has admitted and apologised,there is no need to persecute him like this, we were not there or privvy to conversations or actions,he has daughters who love him and its not fair the hate and vitriole they have to see about thier dad, who are we to judge anyones life style ? This is why i hate the press etc,they just revel in someones downfall.

Yes, I agree but No one held a gun to Schofield's head and made him post the 'They're all out to get me' on Insta and no one held a gun to his head to do his Prince Andrew-esque interview last night.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well it's not actually acknowledging what you did was wrong, is it? It's just saying you regret getting caught. I started listening to the interview but I had to turn it off when he said the only reason he was doing the interview was for the benefit of that boy.........yeah right.

Totally agree

Schofield needs to stop the posting and the interviews. He needs to get some practice in at not being on TV cuz he aint coming back from this

He invokes Leo DiCaprio but failed to acknowledge that DiCaprio gets alot of stick for those relationships and doesn't lie about them,

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes you are a GROOMER Phil

Youtube video

Not Pier having the same misunderstanding of what grooming is as Liam and Glenn . Three peas in a pod they are!

But yes in all seriousness, he does a good job here of outlining why it's still grooming regardless of whether Philip realised what he was doing, or if MM was over 16.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The thing is, even if it wasn't... even if it was sparked out of the young lad's love for/admiration of him and he "made the first move", even if Philip had no intentions of it going there -- as the 50+ year old fairly high profile individual in a position of power and authority who got him the job, he had a very clear duty of care & responsibility to shut that down immediately as inappropriate. As he says himself there is no excuse. But it sounds a whole lot like he goes on to make excuses.

Agreed. If Schofield didn't want the relationship it would never have happened.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Not Pier having the same misunderstanding of what grooming is as Liam and Glenn . Three peas in a pod they are!

But yes in all seriousness, he does a good job here of outlining why it's still grooming regardless of whether Philip realised what he was doing, or if MM was over 16.

This is true.

Grooming and coercion are almost impossible to prove because so many people don't recognise it, realise it or understand it.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Yes, I agree but No one held a gun to Schofield's head and made him post the 'They're all out to get me' on Insta and no one held a gun to his head to do his Prince Andrew-esque interview last night.

If you scrutinise it and read inbetween the "I am sorry" and "it was wrong" platitudes, I think it's pretty clear that (like Andrew) he doesn't actually understand what he did that was wrong besides perhaps cheating on his wife, and also that rather than genuinely sorry he feels very hard-done-by and persecuted. He barely gets the apologies out before he starts explaining exactly why all of this is very unfair on him. He even started saying, in effect, "you better all stop criticising me or you never know I might kill myself" which is a classic coercive control technique and really does NOTHING to bolster his case. Like in a relationship it's an actual form of domestic abuse; "Shut up or I might hurt myself and that will be on you".

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

If you scrutinise it and read inbetween the "I am sorry" and "it was wrong" platitudes, I think it's pretty clear that (like Andrew) he doesn't actually understand what he did that was wrong besides perhaps cheating on his wife, and also that rather than genuinely sorry he feels very hard-done-by and persecuted. He barely gets the apologies out before he starts explaining exactly why all of this is very unfair on him. He even started saying, in effect, "you better all stop criticising me or you never know I might kill myself" which is a classic coercive control technique and really does NOTHING to bolster his case. Like in a relationship it's an actual form of domestic abuse; "Shut up or I might hurt myself and that will be on you".

The interview was all over the place. I could easily write a small essay about it. From the opening 'I'm desperately sorry' That kind of over qualifying an apology always looks insincere. Just sorry will do.

Comparing himself to Leo DiCaprio and claiming the public reaction homophobic. .Victim complex. He doesn't see anything wrong with his actions and came across as quite narcissistic.

Who advised him to do it should be fired but I think no one advised him and Schofield still thinks he can dictate the narrative. He came across as quite a monster in that interview

[Liam-]

I think it’s perfectly reasonable for a person to defend themselves when they’re being publicly dragged through the mud by a vicious media and social media armchair detectives, accusing him of being a criminal without any evidence for or any actual accusations.

It’s completely irrational and unfair to automatically decide he’s guilty of something, without any factual basis, slag him off, call him all the names under the same, celebrate him losing his career and then continue to slag him off when he decides to share his side of the story and defend himself.

I can’t stand the man, I think he’s a pompous, arrogant asshole, but the way he’s being treated atm is appalling and will lead one way only.

[bots]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

The interview was all over the place. I could easily write a small essay about it. From the opening 'I'm desperately sorry' That kind of over qualifying an apology always looks insincere. Just sorry will do.

Comparing himself to Leo DiCaprio and claiming the public reaction homophobic. .Victim complex. He doesn't see anything wrong with his actions and came across as quite narcissistic.

Who advised him to do it should be fired but I think no one advised him and Schofield still thinks he can dictate the narrative. He came across as quite a monster in that interview

Youtube video

[Christmas Lights]

I don't know why Di Caprio is getting brought into this , all his relationships have been with consenting adults....and as far as I know he never knew any of his girlfriend's when they were children as he groomed them in his life ???! . A big age gap is one thing ,yes might still be a bit strange. But it's not the same.