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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

It's one of those situations in which it's easy to see both sodes - the 25%+ increase is technically a correction, and they've not been paid "properly" in ages; but it's hard to have sympathy for people on upwards of £90k who want to increase their pay by at least a quarter!

That would total a huge burden on the already overburdened NHS.

I think a lot of bottom-up changes need to be made tbh. Pissing money away on diversity lectures and paying for people to "transition" is a luxury, and shouldn't even be considered while there's a shortage of Beds and people are being underpaid.

You only need to take a look at the international pay standards (and no not just the US; other countries with socialised healthcare too) to see that both doctors and trained nurses in the UK are starting to lag way behind and the gap is increasing. So there are effectively two choices; we start paying these staff better, or we accept that the UK is not a first-world country capable of providing first-world healthcare.

And then exactly the same thing will happen as happens in developing nations; the staff who have any real skill/ability/talent pack their bags and move to countries that will pay them appropriately for their level of knowledge and skill, and we get left with the low-wage dregs.

Tories are already looking at shortening the length of healthcare education to funnel more staff through quicker. Competence levels will drop and people will die. There's no two ways about it.

Just pray you never get into a serious accident or develop a life-threatening or severe ongoing condition, I guess.