[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

surely you have missed the point, in 1969 there was little discussion on climate change and defo no protests, alot of these people leaving rubbish behind today whatever generation they are will be concerned about climate change, the sad fact is they want SOMEONE ELSE to do something about it and dont take any personal responsibility, some of them will be slow marching in London though and stopping people going about their business, but as long as they had a lovely time at a festival who cares

You have absolutely no idea if the people who left mess behind are the same people who campaign about climate change. The whole thing is borne of a complete delusion that everyone of a certain age has the same attitudes and beliefs. A narrative mostly pushed by online trends and surface appearances.

Here's the brief basic facts:

Just like in 1969, most "Gen Z's" (young people) don't give a stuff about climate change. They don't give a stuff about LGBTQ+. They are not "woke". Kids, teenagers and Uni students today are the same as we were when we were that age... and we were the same as our parents at the same age.

The idea that this messy scene is "ironic" because it was "Gen Z's" and "All Gen Z's complain about climate change!" is nothing more than a complete outrage-fantasy.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

You have absolutely no idea if the people who left mess behind are the same people who campaign about climate change. The whole thing is borne of a complete delusion that everyone of a certain age has the same attitudes and beliefs. A narrative mostly pushed by online trends and surface appearances.

Here's the brief basic facts:

Just like in 1969, most "Gen Z's" (young people) don't give a stuff about climate change. They don't give a stuff about LGBTQ+. They are not "woke". Kids, teenagers and Uni students today are the same as we were when we were that age... and we were the same as our parents at the same age.


The idea that this messy scene is "ironic" because it was "Gen Z's" and "All Gen Z's complain about climate change!" is nothing more than a complete outrage-fantasy.

No I have no idea, no more than you have any idea that they were, but what I do know is that they will be aware of climate change environmental issues even if they live under rocks and can almost guarantee that some that attended will support slow marching etc, even if they dont do it themselves...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No I have no idea, no more than you have any idea that they were, but what I do know is that they will be aware of climate change environmental issues even if they live under rocks and can almost guarantee that some that attended will support slow marching etc, even if they dont do it themselves...

The point is that we have no idea how many of them left mess behind (it wont be all of them) and we have no idea how many support climate activism (it also won't be all of them). Sure there's likely to be some hypocrites and some overlap but taking a stab at how much those two groups overlap is complete guesswork.

Online hysterics would have us all believe that today's youngsters are all Greta Thunbergs, marching around with LGBTQ flags. 3 years of having a daughter in high school has confirmed that that's maybe 10% of teenagers and the rest are not any different to how we were in high school in the slightest. Literally exactly the same thoughts, attitudes and dramas that I saw in school 25 years ago. Gen Z as a homogenous group is an internet myth.

Now there is the unfortunate fact that some politicians and other influential people seem to be buying into that myth... but that's another discussion.