[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

Hamas Military has stated
13 Hostages were killed
by Israeli Missiles.


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yup bomb them is the good option here, NOT


preventable hostage deaths these, if chosen for a slightly better and efficient approach


some of their best Mossad special forces to go in, solely kill the Hamas forces, get the hostages out alive, and once everyone is safe, only then bomb it to make sure no Hamas militant is left alive


ugh sometimes i really do know things better

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I’m sure the ‘government are criminalising speech and thoughts’ crew are gonna be disturbed by that

Pray for Trump. Because it's soon gonna be on our doorstep. The sleeper cells are all here. You've watched them all being boated in. And only The Don out of all Western leaders is on our side.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

Pray for Trump. Because it's soon gonna be on our doorstep. The sleeper cells are all here. You've watched them all being boated in. And only The Don out of all Western leaders is on our side.

I'm sure you'll give us a "told you so" when it happens...
...or an excuse and shifting of the goalposts when it doesn't.

"It's just not happened YET", "It'll happen NEXT YEAR", "The sleeper cells aren't BIG ENOUGH yet" etc.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by jet

I have, now and in the past, and it is no way comparable to the Saturday atrocities carried out by Hamas. If you can show a comparable day of evil inflicted on innocent Palestinians, then let us see it.
You act as if, over those decades, Hamas have been innocent of any atrocities themselves. There have been atrocities on both sides over those years, but the Israeli forces are in no way as brutal as to who they kill as the evil, monstrous Hamas. That's a verifiable fact. You don't have to take my word for it, you can check it out yourself.
Hamas had their headquarters under a hospital ffs, they callously place their missiles of destruction behind apartment blocks full of innocent civilians, they use their own people as human shields. THAT is how they look after their own? Israel is currently advising innocent Palestinians to escape, Hamas are telling them to stay; they WANT them to be slaughtered, can you guess why?
Pumping bullets into babies lying in their cots isn’t a justifiable way of fighting oppression or coming to any kind of compromise. Hamas don’t want compromise, they want the obliteration of all Jews.
Hamas is telling you, loud and clear, that they are purely genocidal. Believe them.

I haven't acted as though Hamas have been innocent. You push this because you want it to be true. I have probably provided the most well rounded view of them, because for obvious reasons, the fact that they do have a charity and welfare arm to their group, isn't particularly of interest right now, and I get that.

You still don't understand that Israel is telling Palestinians to get out of their own country, and those that leave now, will never be allowed to return, which will further tighten the Israeli grip on a land that doesn't belong to them, and that they've raped (yes), murdered (yes), killed babies (including the cutting out of a fetus from a mother -yes), tortured children (yes) to take over. All the tactics of colonisers. Hamas is not Palestine or Palestinians. I posted a couple of vids earlier in this thread showing IDF just indiscriminately killing and maiming any chance they get. It is a violent and oppressive state.

Amnesty international, human rights watch, Israeli human rights organisations all call Israel an apartheid state.

The only wiggle room you've left yourself is demanding that I give an example of a single day. It's BS. Palestinians have been locked in like the proverbial fish in the barrel. IDF hasn't needed to do these things in one day, they are strangling the country slowly, and gleefully.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Pray for Trump. Because it's soon gonna be on our doorstep. The sleeper cells are all here. You've watched them all being boated in. And only The Don out of all Western leaders is on our side.

Did you hear trump the other night praising Hamas for being smart, and saying Netanyahu let him down?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Did you hear trump the other night praising Hamas for being smart, and saying Netanyahu let him down?

Yes.

I saw both the edited version and the real version.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yup bomb them is the good option here, NOT


preventable hostage deaths these, if chosen for a slightly better and efficient approach


some of their best Mossad special forces to go in, solely kill the Hamas forces, get the hostages out alive, and once everyone is safe, only then bomb it to make sure no Hamas militant is left alive


ugh sometimes i really do know things better

So go in, kill Hamas surgically, then carpet bomb the place to get all the civilians. You're a regular general Patton. Netanyahu will probably hire you if you tell him your tactics.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Yes.

I saw both the edited version and the real version.

Any comment you'd like to make? Other than pretending he was edited to make him look bad?

[The Slim Reaper]

Norman Finkelstein was orphaned by the holocaust as every single member of his family was wiped out except him.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Any comment you'd like to make? Other than pretending he was edited to make him look bad?

So you've basically cut of the option for me that's the truth.

That's not fair.

[UserSince2005]

I so worried for Israel they are really under attack from Muslim islamists. It’s really scary what’s happening.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

So you've basically cut of the option for me that's the truth.

That's not fair.

You'll get over it

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Alf]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I liked this reply to that tweet.

[The Slim Reaper]

I thought that none of the Galahads wanted to know the milquetoast political views of the centrist dad, Lineker?

Has that changed now? So confusing to keep up...

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I thought that none of the Galahads wanted to know the milquetoast political views of the centrist dad, Lineker?

Has that changed now? So confusing to keep up...

They don't. But they like to laugh and highlight when hypocrytes are exposed.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

They don't. But they like to laugh and highlight when hypocrytes are exposed.

How has a hypocrite been exposed?

It's in the interests of all Galahads to try and keep Israel sane, because you'll all be crying about more brown people in boats in a few weeks.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

How has a hypocrite been exposed?

It's in the interests of all Galahads to try and keep Israel sane, because you'll all be crying about more brown people in boats in a few weeks.

I believe in you that you're clever enough to work that one out for yourself.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

I believe in you that you're clever enough to work that one out for yourself.

You have too much faith in me. I honestly don't understand how Lineker not tweeting about Israel (because there is definitely a shortage of opinions on the internet right now), somehow exposes a hypocrite.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You have too much faith in me. I honestly don't understand how Lineker not tweeting about Israel (because there is definitely a shortage of opinions on the internet right now), somehow exposes a hypocrite.

OK, maybe you're on to something?

Maybe he doesn't speak out on these terror attacks because he sides with them? He certainly speaks out when people complain when we're boating in these people from the middle East to make home in our communities.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Poor lad has signed up to the champagne socialist guardian lefty club

Israel bad

Terrorists good

[bots]

Scottish leader says Israel going too far - hardly surprising when his wifes parents are in Gazza at the moment

[Alf]

I know the majority of this forum isn't in favour of colonisers.

My question is, and I don't know the answer. It's a genuine question. Not a trick one.

Who are the biggest colonisers in the World right now in the year 2023?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

OK, maybe you're on to something?

Maybe he doesn't speak out on these terror attacks because he sides with them? He certainly speaks out when people complain when we're boating in these people from the middle East to make home in our communities.

Certainly a possibility, or maybe he just thought he didn't need to tweet about it. I wouldn't be surprised if he supported the Palestinian people, but then he's a lib, so he's more likely to be pro-Israel. Who knows? Hopefully he'll tweet soon, so this mystery that has the whole world intrigued, can finally be solved, and a couple of you guys can finally get some sleep.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

To be fair a lot of this thinking is purely because of (for terrible lack of another word) the aesthetics. The visceral and brutal imagery, the clear intent behind it is barbaric. However if you take that away... a child killed in their own bed by an airstrike when someone ten miles away pushes a button is just as dead as a child killed with a knife.

No, I can't just 'take that away'.
War is war, and tragic as it is, collateral damage is unavoidable. On both sides. Especially when a side stores their weapons of destruction in places where their own innocent civilians will be killed for propaganda purposes.

We are talking here about a genocidal terrorist group who use sheer brutal and evil intent. A different mindset entirely.