FAQ |
Members List |
Calendar |
Search |
Today's Posts |
|
Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics. |
Reply |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
31-10-2023, 02:48 AM | #1 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
He Shouted "Justice"
What for Hamas? They are the Government & Terrorists of Palestine [Andy McDonald has been suspended as a Labour MP, after the party said he had made "deeply offensive" comments relating to the Israel-Gaza war. The MP for Middlesbrough used the phrase "between the river and the sea" in a speech at a pro-Palestinian rally. Critics of a chant which contains the phrase argue it implicitly calls for the destruction of Israel. But Mr McDonald said his words were intended as "a heartfelt plea for an end to the killings" in the region. He will now sit as an independent MP, pending an investigation.] This MP pushed the Line he knew this could happen https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67268154 https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/stat...81332288979424 Last edited by arista; 31-10-2023 at 04:18 AM. |
|||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 03:26 PM | #2 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
[Andy McDonald threatens to sue
Tory Chris Clarkson MP over Hamas claim [Andy McDonald has threatened a fellow MP with legal action, over a social media post about his speech at a pro-Palestinian rally. He accused Conservative Chris Clarkson of making "a highly defamatory statement" about him on X. In his post, Mr Clarkson claimed Mr McDonald had sought "to justify the murderous actions of Hamas". But Mr McDonald, who has been suspended as a Labour MP, said his speech had "called for peace". Mr Clarkson has been approached for comment.] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67299563 |
|||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 03:29 PM | #3 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
His suspension is an absolute joke and should really be the start of the fall of Starmer, free speech and free thought are not allowed in Starmers Labour Party, he’s an absolute horror
__________________
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 03:39 PM | #4 | ||
|
|||
Remembering Kerry
|
I have to agree with Liam.
This suspension is a joke but also disturbing. In conflict like this Middle East war, scrap any collective responsibility nonsense and ridiculous party line nonsense too. People are not and SHOULD not be programmed party leader robots. Everyone has their own thinking, emotions and positions on conflicts and wars. They should be free to state their own conscience positions without any penalty Honestly I've had it with Starmer. He has me actually thinking of tearing up my Labour membership card. He may well be claiming to hear what the Party is starting to say on this war, the thing he isn't doing is listening. His arrogance on this issue is pitiful. |
||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 03:44 PM | #5 | |||
|
||||
self-oscillating
|
Any MP, from any party in the UK should be 100% not be seen as inciting tensions in either direction at the moment. These are very tricky times and they need to be aware of that to maintain civil order
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 03:49 PM | #6 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
Andy should
not have spoken on that Big Angry Demo. He was Edited for Social Media Fast. I agree with Starmer Suspending him. Andy is now independent MP Last edited by arista; 03-11-2023 at 03:50 PM. |
|||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 03:51 PM | #7 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
Calling for peace for everybody is inciting tension?
__________________
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 03:53 PM | #8 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
Quote:
No Once you speak into that live mic. He was edited fast for Social Media it became out of his hands. Starmer had no choice |
|||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 03:55 PM | #9 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 03:57 PM | #10 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
Okay? And that’s the problem who actually want to divide people, his actions and his words are what should be considered, not those of others with an agenda, shame on Starmer
__________________
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 03:58 PM | #11 | ||
|
|||
Remembering Kerry
|
Utter nonsense from Starmer on this.
He is wrong and he is wrong on how he's positioned himself on this war too. Sunak is equally wrong on it too. |
||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 03:58 PM | #12 | |||
|
||||
self-oscillating
|
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 03:59 PM | #13 | ||
|
|||
Remembering Kerry
|
Quote:
He just chose the wrong choice. I'm actually livid as to him. Last edited by joeysteele; 03-11-2023 at 04:00 PM. |
||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 04:01 PM | #14 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
That is precisely what he did
__________________
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 04:04 PM | #15 | |||
|
||||
self-oscillating
|
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 04:07 PM | #16 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
He called for peace for both Israelis and Palestinians, no matter which way you try and spin it to make people against the genocide happening look like terrorists/sympathisers
__________________
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 04:07 PM | #17 | |||
|
||||
Zumi Zimi Zami
|
so what
__________________
Taking part in Strictly Jake's Tibb does Strictly Game. |
|||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 04:09 PM | #18 | ||
|
|||
Remembering Kerry
|
|
||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 04:12 PM | #19 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
Quote:
Yes Liam, I heard him say that. On SkyNewsHD. But Edits by Muslim groups took control of everything he said. He was in Mob Angry Muslims. Starmer, had to chuck him out of Labour, for 3 months. Last edited by arista; 03-11-2023 at 04:13 PM. |
|||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 04:15 PM | #20 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 04:59 PM | #21 | |||
|
||||
POW! BLAM!
|
Using the phrase "from the river to the sea" was pretty stupid, given the (apparent) implications it carries.
BUT from what he was saying it's pretty obvious he wasn't using it in that context. Heck, in the same sentence he supported both sides should have peace. His suspension is a ridiculous reaction. |
|||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 05:06 PM | #22 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
Quote:
No Fast Edits from what he said into the Mic By Muslim Extremists Went onto all Social Media. Wrong Location He was a Fool to go at that place Angry Muslims there. |
|||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 06:06 PM | #23 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
He is a ruddy troublemaker, it will do him good to have a break.
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
03-11-2023, 06:09 PM | #24 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
04-11-2023, 09:56 AM | #25 | |||
|
||||
שטח זה להשכרה
|
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
Reply |
|
|