[Oliver_W]

I'm just relieved it's not a hate march.

[bots]

This is going to escalate, it's obvious

[joeysteele]

It's not just in London.
It's across the UK.

Why should people keep quiet and allow slaughter to go unchecked.
Just to please the hard-line right wing who would stop anything they don't agree with.

I near choked when I saw left and Tony Blair put together.
Anyone who believes Blair was of the left knows little possibly re politics.
He couldn't even bring himself to call Labour, just Labour.
There had to be a reason the creep Murdoch loved Blair.
Certainly not because he identified him as left.

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Crimson Dynamo]

trying to kill British Police

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Why should people keep quiet and allow slaughter to go unchecked.

Why should violence, antisemitism, and potential desecration of war memorials be tolerated?
Because it's in "response" to conflicts happening thousands of miles away? That make it okay?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Why should violence, antisemitism, and potential desecration of war memorials be tolerated?
Because it's in "response" to conflicts happening thousands of miles away? That make it okay?

Where is the desecration??

Where is the antisemitism.
You're surely not expecting pro Palestinians and palestinians to be cheering Israel.

Just as it would make no sense for Israelis to be cheering Palestinian groups

The Cenotaph itself commemorates previous wars fought as much OUT of the UK, not just in it.

The Cenotaph was a memorial and a hope for peace in the world.
Where IS there peace.
You maybe can possibly stomach the hate between the 2 middle East nations.
When you see one senseless slaughter of innocents like Hamas in its evil aims carried out against Israelis.
Then see the now 4 weeks of senseless slaughter of innocents on the other side

People should shut up, say and do nothing
Lives should matter more than memorials which can be repaired or replaced.

Lost innocent lives of senseless slaughter from any sides, cannot be replaced.
They're gone for good.

While the world leaders just travel around and watch and talk.
What a mess, one almighty senseless mess.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

trying to kill British Police

Shut up, you.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Where is the desecration??

Where is the antisemitism.
You're surely not expecting pro Palestinians and palestinians to be cheering Israel.

Just as it would make no sense for Israelis to be cheering Palestinian groups

The Cenotaph itself commemorates previous wars fought as much OUT of the UK, not just in it.

The Cenotaph was a memorial and a hope for peace in the world.
Where IS there peace.
You maybe can possibly stomach the hate between the 2 middle East nations.
When you see one senseless slaughter of innocents like Hamas in its evil aims carried out against Israelis.
Then see the now 4 weeks of senseless slaughter of innocents on the other side

People should shut up, say and do nothing
Lives should matter more than memorials which can be repaired or replaced.

Lost innocent lives of senseless slaughter from any sides, cannot be replaced.
They're gone for good.

While the world leaders just travel around and watch and talk.
What a mess, one almighty senseless mess.

Where is the anti-Semitism? Are you serious?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

Where is the anti-Semitism? Are you serious?

i mean wtaf

its literally ALL anti- semitic

it could not be more glaringly obvious

[Crimson Dynamo]

[user104658]

There is indeed plenty of antisemitism present at these marches, just as there is plenty of Islamophobia amongst those who are staunchly pro-Israel. To say that it's "all that it's about" is reductive to the point of just being nonsensical, though... it's an immensely complex conflict with nearly a century of direct history (and centuries of indirect history). To say it's "just" anything is such a vast over-simplification of the issues present that it's barely worth even attempting a discussion.

[joeysteele]

I don't see people who are pro Palestine as antisemitic.

Hamas certainly and other terrorist groupings plus other surrounding Nations of Israel are beyond doubt

People who want the killing to stop on both sides.
No, that's NOT antisemitism.

It's become a norm of debate that antisemitism accusations get wildly thrown at groups and individuals just to suit an individual agenda.
People have to be careful what they say or how they say it for the point where a dangerous accusation of antisemitism could be thrown at them.

Even myself.
Who would always take a stand against antisemitism.
I was once told on here that when I said I had Jewish friends, ( who I have since I was a child).
I had thrown at me, my saying I had Jewish friends was like a racist saying he had black friends.

Dangerous words.
Wrongful accusations like in that example are USING antisemitism against people, not exposing it.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't see people who are pro Palestine as antisemitic

There's a difference between "some of the marches contain antisemitism" and "being pro-Palestine is antisemitic"

[arista]

[arista]

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

There's a difference between "some of the marches contain antisemitism" and "being pro-Palestine is antisemitic"

It's actually frightening people think that.
So everyone has to be pro Israel only not to be seen as antisemitic.
Wow.

Being pro HAMAS is antisemitic.
Just supporting the innocent palestinians is NOT antisemetic at all.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It's actually frightening people think that.
So everyone has to be pro Israel only not to be seen as antisemitic.
Being pro HAMAS is however.

Wow.

what you on about, I didn't say that at all

[arista]

Sky News Text:
[The news that a lawyer who chairs an
official advisory body for Scotland Yard
was filmed leading pro-Palestinian protesters
in the controversial "From the river to the sea"
chant in 2021 is the lead story
in The Sunday Telegraph.]

[arista]

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

what you on about, I didn't say that at all

You say in your post.
Being pro Palestine was antisemetic.

Perhaps I've misunderstood how you meant it.

If that's the case I apologise.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You say in your post.
Being pro Palestine was antisemetic.

Perhaps I've misunderstood how you meant it.

If that's the case I apologise.

Did you notice there were some words before that? And some airquotes? Including those in your reading of the post might help give you some context.

[arista]

[arista]