[Cherie]

Hamas have fired at Israel, war is back on

[bots]

In the last hour, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said Hamas did not agree to release further hostages, which violated the terms of the truce.

Hamas did not release all women hostages as agreed and attacked Israel with rockets this morning, Netanyahu's office adds.

In a statement on social media, his office says Israel remains committed to achieving its objectives - to free hostages, eliminate Hamas and to "ensure that Gaza will never pose a threat to the residents of Israel".

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Hamas have fired at Israel, war is back on

Yes sad.

Hamas want all Israeli's killed

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes sad.

Hamas want all Israeli's killed

That's pretty much their charter.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Hamas have fired at Israel, war is back on

how do we for sure know it was Hamas who fired at Israel?


IDF saying so, but i don't believe them for one bit anymore, and btw they knew about Hamas their invasion plans, and they did nothing to prevent that, in the beginning of this recent conflict which led to 10.000 israeli deaths and kidnappings at a festival


they are just as criminal as the CIA has been of having been aware of the 9/11 terror plans

[Nicky91]

there's no good guys in this conflict honestly


i feel bad for the israeli people because of such morons of the IDF and a idiot like Netanyahu in power


i feel bad for the palestinians in gaza, because of crazy lunatics of Hamas who do not care about its citizens (going as far as hiding behind them, using its citizens as human shields)




i do not like Benny's tone there

"ensure that Gaza will never pose a threat to the residents of Israel".




just get rid of Hamas and the palestinians won't pose a threat anymore, not wiping them out completely (otherwise i hope the EU will sanction Israel quite heavily and i hope EBU will kick them out for a 2 or 3 year long ban due to committed war crimes, same what they did to belarus and russia basically)


fighting terrorists okay, but don't go too far into making it a full genocide of gaza

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yeah and Israel wants to get rid of all other religions, and their religion being the only one in the world



yes i know my stuff on religions (wikipedia exists)

One shred of proof for this comment please.

Judaism doesn't recruit. If someone wants to become a Jew then they may, if they're serious.

You make anti-Semitic comments - like this one - while claiming you're not an anti-Semite. You make completely untrue claims while claiming to "know your stuff" on religion.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Hamas have fired at Israel, war is back on

Yesterday four people were killed and five injured, shot while standing at a bus stop in Jerusalem. Hamas claimed responsibility. I'd say the truce ended then.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Livia

One shred of proof for this comment please.

Judaism doesn't recruit. If someone wants to become a Jew then they may, if they're serious.

You make anti-Semitic comments - like this one - while claiming you're not an anti-Semite. You make completely untrue claims while claiming to "know your stuff" on religion.

okay then i might've misread that


seems a open minded religion then, thank you for enlightening me

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

One shred of proof for this comment please.

Judaism doesn't recruit. If someone wants to become a Jew then they may, if they're serious.

You make anti-Semitic comments - like this one - while claiming you're not an anti-Semite. You make completely untrue claims while claiming to "know your stuff" on religion.

To be fair to Nicky, he said Israel, not Judaism or Jews. It's odd, there's a conflation there that really doesn't happen with any other country.

In terms of what he actually said otherwise, there are certainly fringe groups within Israel who think that there should only be Jews in Israel, and that Israel should include all of Gaza and the West Bank, but that's true if pretty much any country and religion - those groups will always exist.

[Liam-]

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Yes Liam

LBC 10AM show
Left Winger pointed out those
Evil Views

[Nicky91]

thinking there are no innocent people in Gaza


once Israel is done with getting rid of Hamas, they themselves need to clean house in their parliament i feel


peace between israeli and palestinian people is one good thing to wish for in 2024



but this might only be possible once Hamas and Netanyahu and his loyalists are gone from power



i'm sure there are enough capable and good leadership worthy candidates in Israel



but yeah Hamas are terrorists, there i said it, same terror thugs as Al Qaeda or ISIL

[bots]

Originally Posted by Liam-

i think both sides will be indoctrinated from the moment they can walk and talk

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

thinking there are no innocent people in Gaza


once Israel is done with getting rid of Hamas, they themselves need to clean house in their parliament i feel


peace between israeli and palestinian people is one good thing to wish for in 2024



but this might only be possible once Hamas and Netanyahu and his loyalists are gone from power



i'm sure there are enough capable and good leadership worthy candidates in Israel



but yeah Hamas are terrorists, there i said it, same terror thugs as Al Qaeda or ISIL

People within Israel have been trying to get rid of Netanyahu for decades; frequently overlooked is that (by far) not everyone in Israel itself agrees with the actions of the Israeli government. Which sort of throws a spanner in the "goodies vs baddies" narrative.

[bots]

Netanyahu was accused of taking his eye off the ball and for not being tough enough in his response by his people.

I honestly think every country in the world would hit back fast and hard if a similar event happened to them. No amount of condemnation from outside forces could stop it

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Netanyahu was accused of taking his eye off the ball and for not being tough enough in his response by his people.

Some of the people, again let's not paint an incredibly complex political situation as simple. There are (large) groups within Israel including prominent Israeli publications that have been extremely critical of the Israeli government's approach to Palestine/Gaza especially, and not at all for "not being tough enough".

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

To be fair to Nicky, he said Israel, not Judaism or Jews. It's odd, there's a conflation there that really doesn't happen with any other country.

In terms of what he actually said otherwise, there are certainly fringe groups within Israel who think that there should only be Jews in Israel, and that Israel should include all of Gaza and the West Bank, but that's true if pretty much any country and religion - those groups will always exist.

I agree with this .

Nicky is forthright in his views on this desperately sad conflict but he's never said anything antisemetic.
The wild and dangerous slurring accusations that gets thrown around on here ,of making or being antisemetic because of a distrust of the Israeli PM is wrong.

It seems criticism of anything Israel's government do is now being antisemetic.

This is a desperately sad conflict which has now gone on for weeks with no real serious breakthrough as to ending the absurd, cruel and wrong slaughter of innocents on both sides.
I found it depressing this morning to learn, the killing had started so quickly again.
With not surprisingly Hamas and Israels government blaming each other.

The USA, UK and even the EU seem impotent on constructively seeking an end to this.
A lot of talk with no action.

Hamas does need to be destroyed, they don't look out for the Palestinian people.
The citizens of Israel have their government and forces fighting to protect them.
Hamas don't care one bit about any but themselves.
The Palestinian citizens have NONE fighting to protect them.
While Hamas and the Israeli government see them put in greater danger by both and killed .

While the rest of the World looks on talking about it but letting the cruel slaughtering to continue.
It's heartbreaking.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree with this .

Nicky is forthright in his views on this desperately sad conflict but he's never said anything antisemetic.
The wild and dangerous slurring accusations that gets thrown around on here ,of making or being antisemetic because of a distrust of the Israeli PM is wrong.

It seems criticism of anything Israel's government do is now being antisemetic.

This is a desperately sad conflict which has now gone on for weeks with no real serious breakthrough as to ending the absurd, cruel and wrong slaughter of innocents on both sides.
I found it depressing this morning to learn, the killing had started so quickly again.
With not surprisingly Hamas and Israels government blaming each other.

The USA, UK and even the EU seem impotent on constructively seeking an end to this.
A lot of talk with no action.

Hamas does need to be destroyed, they don't look out for the Palestinian people.
The citizens of Israel have their government and forces fighting to protect them.
Hamas don't care one bit about any but themselves.
The Palestinian citizens have NONE fighting to protect them.
While Hamas and the Israeli government see them put in greater danger by both and killed .

While the rest of the World looks on talking about it but letting the cruel slaughtering to continue.
It's heartbreaking.

Nicky said Israel wants to get rid of all other religions and for Judaism to be the only religion in the world.

There are roughly 15 million Jews in the whole world, including Israel.

Nicky was wrong, as he often is, and I found his comment insulting. Neither you nor anyone else can tell me what I do or don't find anti-Semitic.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Livia

Nicky said Israel wants to get rid of all other religions and for Judaism to be the only religion in the world.

There are roughly 15 million Jews in the whole world, including Israel.

Nicky was wrong, as he often is, and I found his comment insulting. Neither you nor anyone else can tell me what I do or don't find anti-Semitic.

yes, in my nation Netherlands, we have jewish communities in Amsterdam, Rotterdam (our most multicultural city btw) and also The Hague


due to this conflict some jewish schools here are too afraid to remain open, but more do homeschooling with online lessons


due to rise of antisemitism here some who are pro-hamas (most protesters however are pro-palestinian and those are peaceful protesters, the ones who riot, look for jewish people are the ones who are pro-hamas, the troublemaker thugs, and they kinda also ruin it for those who support palestine in a more peaceful way)


antisemitism is bad i know that Livia, and you really don't need to worry as i am not antisemitic i swear, i would never behave myself in such a evil and vile way


i am anti-hamas, but i do support the innocent palestinian people, as well as i support the many innocent israeli people

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

Nicky said Israel wants to get rid of all other religions and for Judaism to be the only religion in the world.

There are roughly 15 million Jews in the whole world, including Israel.

Nicky was wrong, as he often is, and I found his comment insulting. Neither you nor anyone else can tell me what I do or don't find anti-Semitic.

I wouldn't presume to tell you what to find antisemetic.
I do know however that criticising the leader/s of Israel and it's governnent, is certainly not being antisemetic

However it's not right too to accuse or even infer on here that anyone does post antisemetic posts or that they could be.
It's neither nice or right for anyone to be made to feel they are seen as antisemetic when it's something they would never even want to be or in any way support.

[Parmy]

Hopefully israel gets all hostages released during the ceasefire. Then bombs the **** out off everything that's left

[Alf]

"I follow what I'm told is good to follow, because I think that makes me the good person"

The following tweet does not include potentially sensitive material. Their word "potentially" is all you need to know to tell you that I'm correct on that.

[Alf]

The far left loves colonialism. It was always them that loved it. It's actually their elite masters that love it. They just follow their masters.

According to this tweet. Some people from the middle East and Asia marching is sensitive. A bit racist.

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Hopefully Israel gets all hostages released during the ceasefire. Then bombs the **** out off everything that's left

Sadly, they will not get them Alive


Hamas is fighting back
We never get to see their side


Once on Ch4HDnews
they showed how Hamas can blow up
an Israel army truck,
full of troops
using one Rocket Missile
on their shoulder.