[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Without a doubt Harry will turn on both Andrew and Ross...he wants the money for himself...but Andrew and Ross know that and will be sure to make him a target...
I really want this to backfire on Harry bigtime.

Same tbh ,but I have a bad feeling Jaz is getting banished next . Jaz is the only faithful I like, it's annoying nobody listens to him. I wanted him in the final.

Harry was playing Zak like a fiddle with his little remarks about " oh do you think it's 2 traitors going at it ". And how can they not see how full detailed his little speech about Paul ,Ash & the dungeon was lol, I would find that really bizarre hearing him reveal all that about Paul , it sounded fully like they were in cahoots. The faithfuls except for Jaz really are gullible to what's in front of them.

Traitors are catching Traitors , yet Harry slips under their radar. And they treat him like the traitor slayer or something hahaha. I really hope he drops himself in it at breakfast with his shield .

He's trying to be too clever and get ahead of himself with the whole " haha the Traitors tried and failed to murder me", hopefully they'll suspect that doesn't make sense. If Andrew & Ross had any sense they'd conspire to kick Harry out before he turns on them.

But I have a feeling Ross will try to go for whoever he sees as weakest out of Harry & Andrew.

[Ammi]

…if Ross had turned it down and said that he wouldn’t be recruited…?…at breakfast he would have been able to say that the Traitors had failed in trying to recruit him…so, Harry wouldn’t have been able to say that the Traitors had tried and failed to murder him because he had a shield, because it was an either or or recruit or kill, not both….that would have been an interesting scenario….

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…if Ross had turned it down and said that he wouldn’t be recruited…?…at breakfast he would have been able to say that the Traitors had failed in trying to recruit him…so, Harry wouldn’t have been able to say that the Traitors had tried and failed to murder him because he had a shield, because it was an either or or recruit or kill, not both….that would have been an interesting scenario….

I don't think Ross was thinking that far ahead , he was more worried about getting murdered which was also Andrew's thinking ...hence why they both accepted. They both think there's more chance at surviving if they just be traitors, I think one of them even said " if you can't beat them then join them ".

I still think this outcome will bite Harry in the bum. As keeping it having a shield secret which is suspicious in itself, and he will probably put Mollie in the limelight light as she's the only faithful he told about it .

And like I said he's never murdered her , and he's very close to her ...which screams traitor if the other players put 2 & 2 together.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I don't think Ross was thinking that far ahead , he was more worried about getting murdered which was also Andrew's thinking ...hence why they both accepted. They both think there's more chance at surviving if they just be traitors, I think one of them even said " if you can't beat them then join them ".

I still think this outcome will bite Harry in the bum. As keeping it having a shield secret which is suspicious in itself, and he will probably put Mollie in the limelight light as she's the only faithful he told about it .

And like I said he's never murdered her , and he's very close to her ...which screams traitor if the other players put 2 & 2 together.

…yeah absolutely, it was all so much to take in being recruited and discovering the identity of the Traitors….that none of them would think of immediate strategies or gameplay etc …but how great would that have been to have completely thrown Harry’s intentions so he would have had to rethink very quickly…?….also, obviously one action and event leads to another etc….and Ross had to accept the recruitment in order to hear Harry say that Diane ‘had to be put in her place…’…that was the moment right there that we saw revenge in his eyes……

[Ammi]

…I’ll miss it after next week…

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I’ll miss it after next week…

Usually the U.S version follows shortly afterwards. There is also an Australian version...

The American versions use celebrities.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Usually the U.S version follows shortly afterwards. There is also an Australian version...

The American one is a celebrity one this time...boo

…I did look up the US one because I think it’s already screening…the BBC have apparently bought it but there’s no release date for it to begin over here atm…I’m not sure with the Australian one but they’re all excellent, I like all of the presenters…

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…yeah absolutely, it was all so much to take in being recruited and discovering the identity of the Traitors….that none of them would think of immediate strategies or gameplay etc …but how great would that have been to have completely thrown Harry’s intentions so he would have had to rethink very quickly…?….also, obviously one action and event leads to another etc….and Ross had to accept the recruitment in order to hear Harry say that Diane ‘had to be put in her place…’…that was the moment right there that we saw revenge in his eyes……

Yeah exactly, Ross has done well to keep that secret about his mum. They've obviously learnt from the dreadful mistake Tom & Alex made last year.

It would be like a soap opera if Ross reveals Harry's name on the blackboard, and then goes " And Diane was in fact my mother" lmao . But I don't think he'll reveal it until the game actually ends in the final as that would still jeapodise him.

I honestly think the only faithful who would think strategically to refuse the Traitors offer & turn up at breakfast, would be Jaz as he's always been 1 step ahead. And I think he'd be honest enough to tell everyone " by the way they tried recruiting me but I refused" etc lol .

Problem is you just never know if that will backfire or work in their favour. It could result in a banishment . As murdering would just confirm it's the truth ,if that makes sense ...which the traitors would avoid doing.

But it would have been interesting to have seen Harry's reaction ,I think he would have tried planting seeds about Ross.

I still think Paul created a monster in Harry .

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Yeah exactly, Ross has done well to keep that secret about his mum. They've obviously learnt from the dreadful mistake Tom & Alex made last year.

It would be like a soap opera if Ross reveals Harry's name on the blackboard, and then goes " And Diane was in fact my mother" lmao . But I don't think he'll reveal it until the game actually ends in the final as that would still jeapodise him.

I honestly think the only faithful who would think strategically to refuse the Traitors offer & turn up at breakfast, would be Jaz as he's always been 1 step ahead. And I think he'd be honest enough to tell everyone " by the way they tried recruiting me but I refused" etc lol .

Problem is you just never know if that will backfire or work in their favour. It could result in a banishment . As murdering would just confirm it's the truth ,if that makes sense ...which the traitors would avoid doing.

But it would have been interesting to have seen Harry's reaction ,I think he would have tried planting seeds about Ross.

I still think Paul created a monster in Harry .

…yeah, you might be right with that thought of Paul creating a monster in Harry…and once Harry had turned on his creator and banished him, he became soulless….…it’s like a script plot, isn’t it…

…what I’d like to see is…

Spoiler:

…Ross avenging Diane and having Harry banished and then Diane …(…fully clothed, though…)….dancing through the mansion to Sophie Ellis’ Murder on the Dancefloor….that would be perfection…

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…yeah, you might be right with that thought of Paul creating a monster in Harry…and once Harry had turned in his creator and banished him, he became soulless….…it’s like a script plot, isn’t it…

…what I’d like to see is…

Spoiler:

…Ross avenging Diane and having Harry banished and then Diane …(…fully clothed, though…)….dancing through the mansion to Sophie Ellis’ Murder in the Dancefloor….that would be perfection…

Did you see Sophie Ellis Bexter on the uncloaked podcast .

And yeah it's definitely like a dramatic plot ,which I'm here for . I think these next few episodes will be gripping to watch lol .

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Same tbh ,but I have a bad feeling Jaz is getting banished next . Jaz is the only faithful I like, it's annoying nobody listens to him. I wanted him in the final.

Harry was playing Zak like a fiddle with his little remarks about " oh do you think it's 2 traitors going at it ". And how can they not see how full detailed his little speech about Paul ,Ash & the dungeon was lol, I would find that really bizarre hearing him reveal all that about Paul , it sounded fully like they were in cahoots. The faithfuls except for Jaz really are gullible to what's in front of them.

Traitors are catching Traitors , yet Harry slips under their radar. And they treat him like the traitor slayer or something hahaha. I really hope he drops himself in it at breakfast with his shield .

He's trying to be too clever and get ahead of himself with the whole " haha the Traitors tried and failed to murder me", hopefully they'll suspect that doesn't make sense. If Andrew & Ross had any sense they'd conspire to kick Harry out before he turns on them.

But I have a feeling Ross will try to go for whoever he sees as weakest out of Harry & Andrew.

Was Andrew a Traitor when Diane was murdered??

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Was Andrew a Traitor when Diane was murdered??

…no …it was Miles because he gave her the poison chalice…

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Was Andrew a Traitor when Diane was murdered??

No it was after .
If you remember.....it was Miles ,Paul & Harry who plotted who they'd give the poisonous chalice to . Then after Miles' banishment they recruited Andrew as a traitor.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

No it was after .
If you remember.....it was Miles ,Paul & Harry who plotted who they'd give the poisonous chalice to . Then after Miles' banishment they recruited Andrew as a traitor.

Oh yes….so Ross will be targeting Harry before Andrew then….hopefully.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Oh yes….so Ross will be targeting Harry before Andrew then….hopefully.

Yep

Especially after Harry got smug and told Ross " she had to go " . He's so dumb , I know he doesn't realise she was Ross' mum ...but nobody likes a jumped up cocky person.

[Cherie]

I wouldn't mind Andrew taking the lot, but I think they have made a mistake bringing Ross on board. he could win this now especially as there is already eyes on Harry

[Strictly Jake]

I want any of the three traitors left to win now. Any one of them deserve it

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Yep

Especially after Harry got smug and told Ross " she had to go " . He's so dumb , I know he doesn't realise she was Ross' mum ...but nobody likes a jumped up cocky person.

I mean Ross even asked "why did you murder Diane?" And Harry didn't cotton on that Ross was clearly bothered about her elimination.

Harry unintentionally delivered a great moment though.

[Ammi]

…not long to go, so looking forward to the next 3 evenings treacherous and deceitful viewing…