[Ammi]

…I’m just watching the Red Nose special on iplayer atm with Dawn French playing Claudia……

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Was Andrew a Traitor when Diane was murdered??

No it was after .
If you remember.....it was Miles ,Paul & Harry who plotted who they'd give the poisonous chalice to . Then after Miles' banishment they recruited Andrew as a traitor.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…yeah, you might be right with that thought of Paul creating a monster in Harry…and once Harry had turned in his creator and banished him, he became soulless….…it’s like a script plot, isn’t it…

…what I’d like to see is…

Spoiler:

…Ross avenging Diane and having Harry banished and then Diane …(…fully clothed, though…)….dancing through the mansion to Sophie Ellis’ Murder in the Dancefloor….that would be perfection…

Did you see Sophie Ellis Bexter on the uncloaked podcast .

And yeah it's definitely like a dramatic plot ,which I'm here for . I think these next few episodes will be gripping to watch lol .

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

No it was after .
If you remember.....it was Miles ,Paul & Harry who plotted who they'd give the poisonous chalice to . Then after Miles' banishment they recruited Andrew as a traitor.

Oh yes….so Ross will be targeting Harry before Andrew then….hopefully.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Oh yes….so Ross will be targeting Harry before Andrew then….hopefully.

Yep

Especially after Harry got smug and told Ross " she had to go " . He's so dumb , I know he doesn't realise she was Ross' mum ...but nobody likes a jumped up cocky person.

[Cherie]

I wouldn't mind Andrew taking the lot, but I think they have made a mistake bringing Ross on board. he could win this now especially as there is already eyes on Harry

[Strictly Jake]

I want any of the three traitors left to win now. Any one of them deserve it

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Yep

Especially after Harry got smug and told Ross " she had to go " . He's so dumb , I know he doesn't realise she was Ross' mum ...but nobody likes a jumped up cocky person.

I mean Ross even asked "why did you murder Diane?" And Harry didn't cotton on that Ross was clearly bothered about her elimination.

Harry unintentionally delivered a great moment though.

[Ammi]

…not long to go, so looking forward to the next 3 evenings treacherous and deceitful viewing…

[UserSince2005]

Ready to see Harry comeuppance tonight. Despite being on the other side of the world. International consensus that he has to go.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…not long to go, so looking forward to the next 3 evenings treacherous and deceitful viewing…

I can't wait either.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…not long to go, so looking forward to the next 3 evenings treacherous and deceitful viewing…

Me too...its been a long week

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Ready to see Harry comeuppance tonight. Despite being on the other side of the world. International consensus that he has to go.

Oh I hope so....

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Oh I hope so....

Watch them banish Jaz instead tonight .

[rusticgal]

Jaz will be murdered tonight….

However Harry’s possible big mistake of using his shield and the traitors came for him…why would they not target him tonight???

[Mystic Mock]

Ross had a unique strategy as a Traitor.

Sad to see him go though.

If people put two and two together the Faithfuls can actually figure out that there's more than one Traitor left.

1. When the Dungeon twist happened, the only Faithful that the Traitors sent down there was Meg? If they think it through they will realise that Andrew is a recruited Traitor and that they need to be on the hunt for at least one more Traitor.

2. Why would Ross and Andrew be discussing Harry? They now know that Ross is a Traitor, so they have got to start studying his behaviour over his last couple of days in the game.

3. If people engage their minds, they'll see how convenient it was for Harry to have a shield on the night the Traitors "tried to murder him" imo it's very obviously BS, I feel like I would see through that.

4. Whilst I admittedly would be wrong to think like this, the Faithfuls should be finding Mollie's staunch defense of Harry extremely suspicious, she even told Andrew off for merely suggesting Harry's name, and if I was on the Show that would make me wonder why she is getting so defensive of Harry? I would either be thinking that they're both Traitors or that they know each other on the outside world, because Mollie's behaviour in particular around Harry would weird me out.

And as a Zack fan, even I've got to say that Harry needs to get him murdered, otherwise Zack will find both Harry and Andrew, as after all he is the Traitor Hunter.

[Ammi]

…whoever the Traitors have killed, it’ll be interesting to see what Harry says in terms of why it wasn’t him and he’s still alive as he didn’t have the shield this time…the Traitors attempted to kill him but they were foiled because he secretly had the shield…then Claudia tells them that no one won a shield and they don’t complete their killing…?…there is just no thought at all……

…it didn’t occur to anyone either and so close to the end etc…that Ross or anyone might have been a new recruit and that no one tried to kill Harry the day before…the obvious would be that someone was recruited, rather than a killing …and yet that isn’t being explored at all…I think it was Zak who said…’I knew all along…’…well no you didn’t because Ross was only a Traitor for a day so you were wrong all along…

[GoldHeart]

I haven't watched Wednesday's show yet , I googled the spoiler anyway. FFS at Ross getting banished .

How is Harry getting away with this ?? . The faithfuls really are dense and gullible.

I'm glad I'm not the only one to think the whole Molly friendship should raise suspicion, if I was in there...I would think Harry & Molly were either
A .old school friends or
B. Boyfriend and Girlfriend.

How can she possibly vouch for him ,when she's only known him for a few weeks. Yes friendships & bonds firm ,but you still can't 100% trust anyone. And how has nobody twigged that Molly will never get murdered ,as Harry is close to her ie making him a traitor and in control on the game

You telling me Harry actually pulled off the breakfast shield plan?? , that's insane. He's such a cocky jumped up little squirt...and he's going to win.

Part of me actually wants him to win , just to see the baffled shocked looks on the remaining faithfuls. They've played the game so badly yikes.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…whoever the Traitors have killed, it’ll be interesting to see what Harry says in terms of why it wasn’t him and he’s still alive as he didn’t have the shield this time…the Traitors attempted to kill him but they were foiled because he secretly had the shield…then Claudia tells them that no one won a shield and they don’t complete their killing…?…there is just no thought at all……

…it didn’t occur to anyone either and so close to the end etc…that Ross or anyone might have been a new recruit and that no one tried to kill Harry the day before…the obvious would be that someone was recruited, rather than a killing …and yet that isn’t being explored at all…I think it was Zak who said…’I knew all along…’…well no you didn’t because Ross was only a Traitor for a day so you were wrong all along…

Tbf to Zack, I do think that Ross was always a sound guess due to some of his strategy in the game.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I haven't watched Wednesday's show yet , I googled the spoiler anyway. FFS at Ross getting banished .

How is Harry getting away with this ?? . The faithfuls really are dense and gullible.

I'm glad I'm not the only one to think the whole Molly friendship should raise suspicion, if I was in there...I would think Harry & Molly were either
A .old school friends or
B. Boyfriend and Girlfriend.

How can she possibly vouch for him ,when she's only known him for a few weeks. Yes friendships & bonds firm ,but you still can't 100% trust anyone. And how has nobody twigged that Molly will never get murdered ,as Harry is close to her ie making him a traitor and in control on the game

You telling me Harry actually pulled off the breakfast shield plan?? , that's insane. He's such a cocky jumped up little squirt...and he's going to win.

Part of me actually wants him to win , just to see the baffled shocked looks on the remaining faithfuls. They've played the game so badly yikes.

Well if I was in there I would definitely try to at least test the theory on Harry & Mollie, because like you've said it would be weird that an obvious pair in the game hasn't been murdered up to this point.

[rusticgal]

Australian version Series 2 will be streaming after the UK version finishes...

[rusticgal]

We need Zach to question why Harry wasnt murdered last night when he claims they had tried to murder him but he had the Shield...

[UserSince2005]

Ross was such a let down.
The producers surely told him not to out their golden boy Harry.
All he had to do was say that he was recruited last night in his exit speech and then we could have seen the faithfuls work out the truth. Although with this group I still have doubt they could be smart enough.
But the producers must have banned him from saying that he was a late recruit

[UserSince2005]

Why Ross went for Andrew and not Harry is beyond me. The producers are desperate to push Harry down are throats like they did Wilf last year.

[UserSince2005]

Harry is the luckiest person ever

Also Zach is just the worst. He thinks he’s so smart yet made the most stupidest mistake with the money bag. What a fool.