[MrGaryy]

Shes an excellent entertainer and peformers and celebrity but the fsct of the matter is that she is merely an average singer.

[MrGaryy]

[Arneldo]

All Madonna has is "star quality" and that isn't what it used to be. She isn't talented IMO obviously people will disagree. But I have every right to say what I believe is talented and not.

Everything she does touched to gold - no denying that. But that's not her! Thats the people behind Madonna. Madonna is a franchise - but that doesn't make her talented.

Revolutionise music!!? What? Everything she has done has been done countless times before. Its also a shame she has to use new people half her age in order to get publicity (Justin/Britney).

Her voice is awful, her dancing is worse and preforming live is like watching angry cat have a epileptic fit on stage.

IMO, obviously

[geoking66]

Originally posted by Arneldo
All Madonna has is "star quality" and that isn't what it used to be. She isn't talented IMO obviously people will disagree. But I have every right to say what I believe is talented and not.

Everything she does touched to gold - no denying that. But that's not her! Thats the people behind Madonna. Madonna is a franchise - but that doesn't make her talented.

Revolutionise music!!? What? Everything she has done has been done countless times before. Its also a shame she has to use new people half her age in order to get publicity (Justin/Britney).

Her voice is awful, her dancing is worse and preforming live is like watching angry cat have a epileptic fit on stage.

IMO, obviously

I admit, I'm a hardcore Madonna fan myself, but I still see her flaws. To say that she's a franchise is ridiculous, that would mean that she was manufactured and Madonna is anything but that. There are so many things that Madonna has contributed to music that it's invariably impressive. I still think that her most unparallelled contribution is the fusion of electronic music within pop (Ray of Light 1998), becoming the first mainstream artist to do so. Without that breakthrough, who knows how much different music would be? Madonna basically built the music video era, taking the crown for most provocative and well-developed videos from Michael Jackson. With more VMA nominations and wins than any other artist in history, she has also challenged the mainstream social norms of society and without Madonna, it's possible that so many of the fads and rebellioins that we see today may not exist. Having seen her perform live twice (Re-Invention in 2004 and Confessions in 2006), I can tell you that she has perfected the art of touring. She has seemlessly blended graphics, music, performing, and dancing to another level. Her stage layouts are groundbreaking, with her 1993 tour The Girlie Show being one of the first tours to have a runway, something that is consistently used nowadays. Madonna's use of technology is astounding and her tours contain some of the most advanced lighting, video, and sound production in the music industry. For what she spends, it's well worth it and I'm not ashamed to say that I paid £200 to see her in concert.

[Ross]

4 Minutes I think.