[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…this is very worrying, didn’t she withdraw from appearing with Lorraine Kelly as well, did I read…?…and it’s also been reported that she’s withdrawn from social media…?…I hope she’s ok, the internet/social media etc can be awful…

It could be her playing another game …

It’s got every body talking about her yet again


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[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

It could be her playing another game …

It’s got every body talking about her yet again


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…if that was the case and someone was encouraging that ‘talking about’…then what would be the point unless they were engaging in it and enjoying bring a part in it…they wouldn’t be ‘hiding’ from it and effectively ‘cancelling themselves’ from public appearances …that wouldn’t make any sense at all…

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…if that was the case and someone was encouraging that ‘talking about’…then what would be the point unless they were engaging in it and enjoying bring a part in it…they wouldn’t be ‘hiding’ from it and effectively ‘cancelling themselves’ from public appearances …that wouldn’t make any sense at all…

Any publicity is good publicity - Madonna

She’s succeeded in getting herself talked about in the media ..


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[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Any publicity is good publicity - Madonna


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…that might work/have worked for Madonna but it doesn't work for everyone in every situation, we all know that…and Madonna and Ekin-Su aren’t comparable so there is no relevance, really…

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…that might work/have worked for Madonna but it doesn't work for everyone in every situation, we all know that…and Madonna and Ekin-Su aren’t comparable so there is no relevance, really…

As I understand it the ‘saying’ is correct .. it applies to anything and anyone apparently.


The theory is that as time passes you remember the person or the name of the company but not the reason ..


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[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

As I understand it the ‘saying’ is correct .. it applies to anything and anyone apparently.


The theory is that as time passes you remember the person or the name of the company but not the reason ..


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…(…I’m not going to get too deeply into because I’m going out and don’t have the time…)…but it doesn’t equally apply because it doesn’t allow for context and specifics that fit the circumstance…it doesn’t allow for the very common and familiar of notoriety, for instance…’not all well known is well known favourably’ and that can harm careers and harm celebrity…no more so than in our present times of ‘cancel’….

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

It could be her playing another game …

It’s got every body talking about her yet again


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I get what you mean.

But we also can't rule out the possibility of her feeling her Mental Health worsening either.

I think it's definitely good to have some paranoia (because a lot of Celebs are fake as ****,) but it doesn't mean that all of them are, so we should try to keep an open mind.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I get what you mean.

But we also can't rule out the possibility of her feeling her Mental Health worsening either.

I think it's definitely good to have some paranoia (because a lot of Celebs are fake as ****,) but it doesn't mean that all of them are, so we should try to keep an open mind.

Yes that’s a fair point.. she is a devious madam though


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[Ammi]

…anyway, it all doesn’t look well in ITVBB…they’ve praised their housemate care pledge but so far it’s felt largely about words with far less substance …in only one civilian and one celebrity edition, there has been some very questionable carelessness …and they do again have to take some responsibility with Ekin-Su if this has created her to be emotionally fragile because they decide in the ‘hero and villain’ edits….

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…anyway, it all doesn’t look well in ITVBB…they’ve praised their housemate care pledge but so far it’s felt largely about words with far less substance …in only one civilian and one celebrity edition, there has been some very questionable carelessness …and they do again have to take some responsibility with Ekin-Su if this has created her to be emotionally fragile because they decide in the ‘hero and villain’ edits….

Well ITV does have Love Island, and did have The X Factor which was also quite cruel to it's contestants.

ITV seem to not be good with psychological care for their contestants.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Well ITV does have Love Island, and did have The X Factor which was also quite cruel to it's contestants.

ITV seem to not be good with psychological care for their contestants.

…absolutely, they’re showing no progression in their care, Mock…and that’s very worrying to see atm in such early stages of their production of the show…

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…absolutely, they’re showing no progression in their care, Mock…and that’s very worrying to see atm in such early stages of their production of the show…

Hopefully Ekin Su's friends and family are keeping a close eye on her, to make sure that she's doing okay.

And I agree with you Ammi 100%, I mean they've managed Reality Shows for decades at this point, and they still can't make sure that the contestants are mentally okay post-Show.

[rusticgal]

Well, I am afraid I am less sympathetic. I am sure she got a lot of backlash on Social Media when she won LI because everyone knows that they only won because everyone loved Davide...she was manipulative on that.
Since then she has appeared on DOI where she sulked like a child when she wasn't achieving good marks. Then she is on CBB...desperate for airtime and desperate for fame. Its all sun and roses when it works in your favour...but as MM knows you start lying and twisting stories and manipulating situations to suit your own agenda, then its going to come back and bite you on the bum...and thats what she did during the CBB experience.
Sadly with this generation Social media is the be all and end all...its sick. Im sure she has made loads of money since LI..more than any of us dream about.
Go and enjoy it and just use Social Media to chat with your friends and family.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Well, I am afraid I am less sympathetic. I am sure she got a lot of backlash on Social Media when she won LI because everyone knows that they only won because everyone loved Davide...she was manipulative on that.
Since then she has appeared on DOI where she sulked like a child when she wasn't achieving good marks. Then she is on CBB...desperate for airtime and desperate for fame. Its all sun and roses when it works in your favour...but as MM knows you start lying and twisting stories and manipulating situations to suit your own agenda, then its going to come back and bite you on the bum...and thats what she did during the CBB experience.
Sadly with this generation Social media is the be all and end all...its sick. Im sure she has made loads of money since LI..more than any of us dream about.
Go and enjoy it and just use Social Media to chat with your friends and family.

She’s delusional and very manipulative .. plus she knows that she has a power over men …

I still see her marrying a very wealthy guy somewhere down the line .. I get the feeling that her ultimate target is ££££££££


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[Garfie]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Well, I am afraid I am less sympathetic. I am sure she got a lot of backlash on Social Media when she won LI because everyone knows that they only won because everyone loved Davide...she was manipulative on that.
Since then she has appeared on DOI where she sulked like a child when she wasn't achieving good marks. Then she is on CBB...desperate for airtime and desperate for fame. Its all sun and roses when it works in your favour...but as MM knows you start lying and twisting stories and manipulating situations to suit your own agenda, then its going to come back and bite you on the bum...and thats what she did during the CBB experience.
Sadly with this generation Social media is the be all and end all...its sick. Im sure she has made loads of money since LI..more than any of us dream about.
Go and enjoy it and just use Social Media to chat with your friends and family.

I agree with most of what you say here, rustic. She has repeatedly put herself out there on reality tv shows which she knows are about judgement and popularity. We are all also aware of the nature of social media, with people like Ekin who is already in the public eye, being more aware than most.

There’s part of me that asks why put yourself out there for judgement if you don’t want to be judged, and if you can’t accept that some people might not like you or perceive you in the way you desire?

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…absolutely, they’re showing no progression in their care, Mock…and that’s very worrying to see atm in such early stages of their production of the show…

I understand what you’re saying, Ammi, but we don’t know if there is any problem with her mental health. Maybe she has pulled out because she has a bee in her bonnet that she didn’t achieve what she wanted to - she did go straight into her interview with some obvious resentment about the ‘edit narrative’, despite having never seen the edit. Staying away from the final might be her way of trying to reinforce that narrative.

I do believe that, in this day and age, any celebrity who participates in reality shows is fully aware of the potential outcomes - good or bad - and they also have to bear some responsibility for what happens. It cannot solely be blamed on the show.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Zizu

It could be her playing another game …

It’s got every body talking about her yet again


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Could be either, but she knows the pitfalls of reality tv - they all do - and they all make the decision to take part despite that. They know the potential risks, and believe them to be worth it when they sign up.