[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

DeSantis imo uses the "protect the children" argument a lot, and I normally tend to find that people like that are rarely genuine.

He has young children

[Tinsel Toes]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

He has young children

Its totally twisted thinking ????

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

He has young children

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2313584.html

He has children but happily signed a bill to allow people to carry concealed weapons.

The US is now up to 84 school shootings this year.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2313584.html

He has children but happily signed a bill to allow people to carry concealed weapons.

The US is now up to 84 school shootings this year.

Yes he has 3 lovely children and represents the democratic wishes of the people of Florida

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes he has 3 lovely children and represents the democratic wishes of the people of Florida

I mean obviously from basically everything I've posted on the subject here in the past several years, I agree that there are heavy child safeguarding issues with gender ideology being introduced to children and anything sexually overt in an age-inappropriate way (although I would very strongly argue that there's no element of sexuality in there - it applies equally to heterosexual inappropriate material - and I'm also not a Jesus thumper or a puritan, it is OK or even important for older children to understand what sex is and who does it with whom in the real world).

However.

Trying to make out that ... erm ... really anything AT ALL ... is more of a clear and present risk to kids in the USA than firearms, is just factually and statistically false.

20% of deaths of under 18 year olds caused by firearms, and overtook car accidents as the #1 cause of death in childhood in 2020.

The statistics are absolutely insane.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I mean obviously from basically everything I've posted on the subject here in the past several years, I agree that there are heavy child safeguarding issues with gender ideology being introduced to children and anything sexually overt in an age-inappropriate way (although I would very strongly argue that there's no element of sexuality in there - it applies equally to heterosexual inappropriate material - and I'm also not a Jesus thumper or a puritan, it is OK or even important for older children to understand what sex is and who does it with whom in the real world).

However.

Trying to make out that ... erm ... really anything AT ALL ... is more of a clear and present risk to kids in the USA than firearms, is just factually and statistically false.

20% of deaths of under 18 year olds caused by firearms, and overtook car accidents as the #1 cause of death in childhood in 2020.

The statistics are absolutely insane.

For some additional context (that Sheriff will be pleased to hear I've just dutifully Googled), the UK stats are:

#1 Accidental injury (including road incidents)
#2 Cancer
#3 Intentional self-harm (including suicide)
#4 Neurological disorders
#5 Cardiovascular and respiratory disorders


... ... in the USA

#1 Guns


I mean come on...

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2313584.html

He has children but happily signed a bill to allow people to carry concealed weapons.

The US is now up to 84 school shootings this year.

Is DeSantis insane? That's a terrible law to pass through imo.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

He has young children

It still doesn't change the fact that he uses the "think of the children" motto that 95% of the far right tends to always play on.

DeSantis knows what he is doing with that argument, because obviously most people don't want to encourage something that might be harmful to kids (or allegedly so.)