[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Mikel Arteta won the FA cup in his first year. A fact that people only trot out when it suits them Big Ange has done well but lets not get carried away. How many of that Arsenal side are still at the club?

I like Ange and the way he plays but this is not the Scottish Prem. Teams get hit quickly at this level.

I have a friend who follows Celtic who told me that under Ange Spurs will lose games when they've had 70% possession. A great call and someone who sees the deficiencies of Ange-ball.

Its gonna take time for this project to come together and players, who are fan favourites, will have to be let go. This is stuff the Spurs fans couldnt see a few months ago as they were too busy gassing it about how good they think they are.

Then we get the Levy issues ie the chairman not backing the project with his money and I'm optimistic that Spurs arent gonna do much for the next few seasons. Just like they haven't for a few years now.

Who knows

But without all the injuries to absolute key players plus losing their midfield plus Son to those competitions they would be challenging for 3rd place

This last dreadful run coincides with losing Udogie who is vital down the left
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[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Who knows

But without all the injuries to absolute key players plus losing their midfield plus Son to those competitions they would be challenging for 3rd place

This last dreadful run coincides with losing Udogie who is vital down the left
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I dont accept the 'injuries' excuse. Its an excuse. Liverpool have had more out and Arsenal have had Timber out for the whole season and Partey out. Looking at the way Partey has played since coming back I can say that if we had him we may have sown it up by now. ITs very Spurzy to use the 'injuries' excuse.

Lets talk about the midfield cuz I think the midfield that Spurs fans raved about is actually not good enough for this level. I alluded to it in a previous post that fan faves may be let go and I see Bissouma being one. I compare him to Hector Bellerin. A player Arsenal fans were certain would fit into Artetas plan but after two seasons we finally saw that he just doesn't fit in. This is why I urge Spurs fans to be cautious. Maddison too. A few months ago he was better than Odergaard now Spurs fans are calling him selfish. Trying to make 20 - 30 million pound players into 100 million pound players needs a huge input from the player himself and those two are prime examples of players who seem to have hit a wall this season. Unlike Odergaard who is definitely now a much better player that the player signed from Real Madrid. How many Spurs players can we say are better now than when signed? Not many.

I like Ange but Spurs are nowhere near where some of the fans think they are.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I dont accept the 'injuries' excuse. Its an excuse. Liverpool have had more out and Arsenal have had Timber out for the whole season and Partey out. Looking at the way Partey has played since coming back I can say that if we had him we may have sown it up by now. ITs very Spurzy to use the 'injuries' excuse.

Lets talk about the midfield cuz I think the midfield that Spurs fans raved about is actually not good enough for this level. I alluded to it in a previous post that fan faves may be let go and I see Bissouma being one. I compare him to Hector Bellerin. A player Arsenal fans were certain would fit into Artetas plan but after two seasons we finally saw that he just doesn't fit in. This is why I urge Spurs fans to be cautious. Maddison too. A few months ago he was better than Odergaard now Spurs fans are calling him selfish. Trying to make 20 - 30 million pound players into 100 million pound players needs a huge input from the player himself and those two are prime examples of players who seem to have hit a wall this season. Unlike Odergaard who is definitely now a much better player that the player signed from Real Madrid. How many Spurs players can we say are better now than when signed? Not many.

I like Ange but Spurs are nowhere near where some of the fans think they are.

They have had ridiculously bad set of injuries imho

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/tott...ten/verein/148


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[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Zizu

They have had ridiculously bad set of injuries imho

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/tott...ten/verein/148


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They're supposed to be a top six club. They wanted the Super league. They cant use the 'injuries' excuse IMO Everyone has injuries

[bots]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

They're supposed to be a top six club. They wanted the Super league. They cant use the 'injuries' excuse IMO Everyone has injuries

there are 4 or 5 first team regulars in the team, and they have all been sh!t

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

there are 4 or 5 first team regulars in the team, and they have all been sh!t

Well said.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

They're supposed to be a top six club. They wanted the Super league. They cant use the 'injuries' excuse IMO Everyone has injuries

Their injuries were devastating though
As were losing those players to those eastern international competitions


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