[Crimson Dynamo]

Gary Lineker is embroiled in another Gaza row as he is accused of being 'tone-
deaf' after referring to the October 7 terror attacks in Israel as 'the Hamas
thing'





He says he cries on a regular basis....

Gary Lineker has been slammed for making 'tone-deaf' comments after
seemingly referring to the October 7 attacks on Israel as 'the Hamas thing'.


The controversy-prone BBC commentator made the remark on the British-
American broadcaster Medhi Hasan's Medhi Unfiltered programme.

Discussing the ongoing war in Gaza, Lineker said: 'I can't think of anything
that I've seen worse in my lifetime. The constant images of children losing
their lives day in, day out.

'Now obviously we all know October 7 happened, and the Hamas thing, but
the minute you raise your voice against what they're now doing there, you
get accused of being a supporter of Hamas.'

A spokesperson for the Campaign Against Antisemitism (CAA) said: 'Gary is
not a lone heroic voice: he is one of a mob offering up one-sided, tone-deaf
interventions on social media.

'It has not escaped anyone's notice that, despite his clear interest in the topic
and social media habit, he has barely commented on the worst anti-Semitic
atrocity since the Holocaust on October 7 - 'the Hamas thing', as he now
reluctantly referred to it in passing.'

The CAA added: 'Far from being silenced, Mr Lineker's stance has become so
normalised - and the voice of the mob of which he is part has grown so loud -
that the BBC is desensitised to it and regularly ignores the clear breaches of
its impartiality guidelines that these interventions represent.'

His comments came as part of an interview with Guardian columnist and
prominant Israeli critic Mehdi Hasan for 'independant and unfliltered' news
site Zeteo.

The former England captain, 63, has previously landed himself in hot water
for his political interventions which critics see as flagrant breaches of the
BBC's impartiality rules.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mas-thing.html

[arista]

Yes I watched clips of him
last night.

BBC is not able to control what he says
it seems.

[user104658]

He also says he's getting on a bit/does not need the employment or money and has decided to say whatever the **** he wants so fair play to him. What can you really do about it. Nowt .

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

He also says he's getting on a bit/does not need the employment or money and has decided to say whatever the **** he wants so fair play to him. What can you really do about it. Nowt .

er he should be relieved of his well paid job, plenty others to fill his boots, if he is doesn't need the cash he is just using his tax payer funded job as a platform for his views so he should step down if he had any real morals

[Kate!]

He's a bit of an idiot.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

er he should be relieved of his well paid job, plenty others to fill his boots, if he is doesn't need the cash he is just using his tax payer funded job as a platform for his views so he should step down if he had any real morals

Why would anyone step down from a platform and why would it be their moral responsibility to do so? Just not really accurate as to how the world works.

You could argue that it's immoral of the BBC to continue to offer/fund this platform if they know it to be against the wishes of license payers or (more importantly, because there's really nothing positive at all in mob rule) it goes against established impartiality rules.

But putting the moral responsibility on an individual to step away from a platform that they're using to speak about things they believe in? An odd sort of "morality" there.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kate!

He's a bit of an idiot.

a plonker

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Why would anyone step down from a platform and why would it be their moral responsibility to do so? Just not really accurate as to how the world works.

You could argue that it's immoral of the BBC to continue to offer/fund this platform if they know it to be against the wishes of license payers or (more importantly, because there's really nothing positive at all in mob rule) it goes against established impartiality rules.

But putting the moral responsibility on an individual to step away from a platform that they're using to speak about things they believe in? An odd sort of "morality" there.

You just said he bragged he is getting on a bit and doesn't need the money, so step away then and give it to someone who does, someone who needs to pay their mortgage perhaps or bring up a family....he is such a do gooder after all its the least he could do...no?

[Liam-]

Free speech innit

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You just said he bragged he is getting on a bit and doesn't need the money, so step away then and give it to someone who does, someone who needs to pay their mortgage perhaps or bring up a family....he is such a do gooder after all its the least he could do...no?

He doesn't need to keep the platform to support himself and his family, so he's happy to speak his mind even if it means losing the platform, thus, he should immediately give up the platform and lose the ability to use that platform to speak his mind, which would have been the reason he might lose the platform?



Convoluted nonsense - you only expect him to give up the platform because you don't like what he has to say. If the world worked that way, NO ONE would be saying anything about anything, because there will always be some people who don't like it.

If this is an argument that the BBC and its supposed impartiality and the BBC license fee shouldn't exist at all then I am fully in favour of that. But it's the institution that's broken and the problem, not Gary Linekar "having thoughts about stuff". I get that you find him insufferable, I personally find his views to be well-meaning but not particularly well developed or nuanced, but he's fairly benign. Look at the hoard of puffy faced arseholes we're forced to endure Twitter/YouTube videos of DAILY on this site. Is Gary Linekar worse because his views come from a slightly more (not even very, but supposedly) left-leaning perspective?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Free speech innit

hardly free as most people have to pay a tv tax so he can earn over Ł1 million a year

[The Slim Reaper]

There aren't that many ex-footballers struggling to pay their mortgages

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

hardly free as most people have to pay a tv tax so he can earn over Ł1 million a year

Lineker is the only person on the BBC to earn a salary and have views that someone might not like? Laura Kuenssberg has a weekly TV show she uses purely to shill for Tories, and I doubt it's voluntary work.

[bots]

Half the reason anyone takes any notice of him is because he is on match of the day, so it does help amplify his voice in these situations.


The funny thing is that without LT bringing it up here, I wouldn't have a clue what Gary was saying, so Gary can thank LT for helping him to get his message out to the people


There are all sorts of people that have a disproportionate voice in society, some good, some bad. All JKR did was plagiarise an existing book idea for a really crap book series, and now she thinks she can talk on any subject and people should listen

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

There aren't that many ex-footballers struggling to pay their mortgages

Only a tiny fraction of all football players get prem wages

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The average wage of a Premier League footballer is just over Ł60,000 a
week, which equates to more than 3 million a year. Premier League
footballers are the highest paid; lower divisions receive much less.

Championship wages are just over Ł4,000 a week, which is around Ł200,000
a year. This is an excellent example of how quickly wages can drop below the
Premier League, even though they’re still generous.

Players in the bottom division are paid considerably worse than Premier
League and even Championship players, earning around Ł750 per week,
which isn’t much higher than the national average.



https://thepfsa.co.uk/football-wages...lers-get-paid/

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Only a tiny fraction of all football players get prem wages

--------

The average wage of a Premier League footballer is just over Ł60,000 a
week, which equates to more than 3 million a year. Premier League
footballers are the highest paid; lower divisions receive much less.

Championship wages are just over Ł4,000 a week, which is around Ł200,000
a year. This is an excellent example of how quickly wages can drop below the
Premier League, even though they’re still generous.

Players in the bottom division are paid considerably worse than Premier
League and even Championship players, earning around Ł750 per week,
which isn’t much higher than the national average.



https://thepfsa.co.uk/football-wages...lers-get-paid/

To host the flagship footie program on the BBC that concentrates solely on the top division, they wouldn't go and get someone who'd flitted between league 1 and 2 his whole career, so wages across the footie pyramid aren't really relevant.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

To host the flagship footie program on the BBC that concentrates solely on the top division, they wouldn't go and get someone who'd flitted between league 1 and 2 his whole career, so wages across the footie pyramid aren't really relevant.

They regularly have women on talking about men's Premier league when their level of football equates to an average under 15 top level men's team

[bots]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

They regularly have women on talking about men's Premier league when their level of football equates to an average under 15 top level men's team

yes, but they are paid about 50 pence for their appearance, while Gary and Alan are paid a fortune. Not all pundits are equal

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

yes, but they are paid about 50 pence for their appearance, while Gary and Alan are paid a fortune. Not all pundits are equal

wait

they get paid?

[Swan]

He's such a poor presenter, i don't care about his political beliefs, although he was a massive smug hypocrite when it came to the WC in Qatar. But yeah, back to his presenting style, it's all "errrr sooo eerrrmmm eerrrmmmm what errr do you erm ermm think uh uh erm Alan about that erm controversial var erm uh decis er ion".

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Swan

He's such a poor presenter, i don't care about his political beliefs, although he was a massive smug hypocrite when it came to the WC in Qatar. But yeah, back to his presenting style, it's all "errrr sooo eerrrmmm eerrrmmmm what errr do you erm ermm think uh uh erm Alan about that erm controversial var erm uh decis er ion".

I gave up watching some time ago

on way too late and for too long

you can watch all the highlights hours before anyroad

[bots]

the last time i watched MotD was at the last controversy, and at least 20 years prior to that. Alan Hanson was a regular then

[Swan]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I gave up watching some time ago

on way too late and for too long

you can watch all the highlights hours before anyroad

I've not watched MOTD in years, but if i watch an FA Cup tie, or a summer tournament he's naturally all over any BBC coverage. It's mainly during half time i suffer through his half arsed smug style of presenting, he's just so poor.

And i will never in a million years understand how Steve McMananaman manages to secure employment with BT/TNT. If im watching games for free, i do my absolute best to avoid the TNT streams with him on commentary. He has some dirt on higher ups at the company, or is shagging someone important to his employment, there's no other scenario where he keeps his job.

[Beso]

Always said he looks like a debearded muslim.

Take you giant elasticatic rubber lugs and **** off gary...you ain't no seb coe.

[Swan]

I remember him saying his was a darker white person back in the day, and was in the same boat as black players in the 80's.