[AnnieK]

I read this title as embroiled in a Gazza row.....I thought he was having a go / defending Paul Gascoigne

[Zizu]

I’ve always liked Lineker..

Strangw his brother is a ‘proper bad ‘un’ though .. apparently


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[DemRed]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

people have alternative views that get attention these days. We are never going to agree on everything, but i wouldn't want my viewpoint shut down by others, so why should we want to do that to anyone

If we all agreed, we would either have a very evil world, a very peaceful world or a very boring one! The saying goes: Most of us have two eyes but none of us have the same view.

I agree with you.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

So? Free speech for everyone or free speech for nobody

But he works for the BBC
this is why he gets tangled in a mess.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by arista

But he works for the BBC
this is why he gets tangled in a mess.

Can you imagine a BBC worker saying Israel are only protecting their people

No

Me neither

[Livia]

I don't like Lineker. I prefer Mark Chapman to analyse West Ham's latest loss.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Livia

I don't like Lineker. I prefer Mark Chapman to analyse West Ham's latest loss.

Good lad is chappers

[Mystic Mock]

I personally support his right to say whatever he likes, the BBC imo shouldn't have the power to dictate what someone else wants to say in a democratic country.

However, he definitely should've re-phrased "the Hamas thing" into something less cold and clinical.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Swan

I've not watched MOTD in years, but if i watch an FA Cup tie, or a summer tournament he's naturally all over any BBC coverage. It's mainly during half time i suffer through his half arsed smug style of presenting, he's just so poor.

And i will never in a million years understand how Steve McMananaman manages to secure employment with BT/TNT. If im watching games for free, i do my absolute best to avoid the TNT streams with him on commentary. He has some dirt on higher ups at the company, or is shagging someone important to his employment, there's no other scenario where he keeps his job.

The TNT team make the Sky Sports crew seem exciting.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Swan

I remember him saying his was a darker white person back in the day, and was in the same boat as black players in the 80's.

That's a legendary statement.

Lineker's IQ appears to be at a similar level to the Destroyer Of Championship Clubs (Wayne Rooney.)

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

people have alternative views that get attention these days. We are never going to agree on everything, but i wouldn't want my viewpoint shut down by others, so why should we want to do that to anyone

Someone speaking what should be common sense.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I think the world needs to wake up. We are at war. I don't know why the world leaders continue to deny it.


We are at war in the middle east. We can't let Iran win, so why are we trying to tie Israel hands behind their back.

We are at war with Russia, so why do Nato leaders deny funding, troops and equipment to Ukraine. Do they expect Ukraine to fight on, on our behalf with edicts like don't strike Russian territory, when Russia is invading Ukraine?

We are being played for fools at the moment

I can see your point tbh.

And wait until the China vs Taiwan conflict escalates.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I'm going to hazard a guess that it's probably maybe because they don't want to start a full-scale conflict that would end up going nuclear and result in the destruction of the entire planet. Not sure but it seems like a valid possibility.

Nobody would be insane enough in this day and age to use Nukes.

Unless Putin wants his country wiped out of existence.

[Ammi]

…I’m really quite conflicted in what I feel about what Gary Lineker said ….he always seems like a thoughtful guy but I only really ever am aware of his words when they’ve been deemed by the media to have been controversial because he’s not someone that I watch or listen to as a football pundit…he’s someone that speaks from the heart and as a humanitarian is what he’s said …and obviously some of his words … 'I can't think of anything
that I've seen worse in my lifetime. The constant images of children losing
their lives day in, day out’….are also being expressed by so much of the world’s people day in and day out because the loss of innocent life is horrific…

…there are so many ways that Hamas’ attack on October 7 could have been described if a descriptive were to have been used…so many words that he could have used…?…brutal..?…savage…?…inhuman…?…merciless…?…
murderous…?…evil and wicked…?…heinous…?…those are all words that are used in terrorist attacks and slaughter of innocence, aren’t they…like with 9/11 for instance, I can’t think of it as being referred to as ‘a 9/11 thing’…because it just …diminishes and reduces something murderous and brutal that should never be diminished or reduced…and I get ‘freedom of speech’ also…but when people are ‘influencers’ as Gary is…then the words used in their humanitarian feelings and thoughts are surely of great importance as they carry a weight, also…and that weight also has humanitarian implications, or I should say, can have, on and for the Jewish communities around us…

..anyway, ‘the Hamas’ is not just an unfortunate phrasing, it’s very diminishing and depreciating of an horrific attack, I feel…so not a good look for a humanitarian person as he is ….

[LeatherTrumpet]

Gary Lineker, the BBC’s chief political commentator, believes it’s unfair that
he receives so much criticism for his comments on Israel and Gaza. “The
minute you raise your voice against what they’re now doing there,” he
complained during an interview with the Left-wing journalist Mehdi Hasan,
“you get accused of being a supporter of
Hamas.”

Any such accusation is clearly outrageous. I’m quite sure St Gary doesn’t
support Hamas, or indeed any other genocidal Islamist terror group.

I do, however, think he suffers from the same problem as an awful lot of
Western progressives. Which is that, when it comes to Israel, he has
absolutely no idea how biased he sounds.

As a matter of fact, he demonstrated this during the very same interview.
Speaking about the war in Gaza, St Gary said: “I can’t think of anything that
I’ve seen worse in my lifetime.”

This is a remarkable statement. Not least because St Gary was born all the
way back in November 1960. And, during the 63 and a half years since, the
world has endured quite a large number of brutal conflicts. Take the Second
Congo War (1998-2003), which
claimed an estimated 5.4m lives. And the Vietnam War (1955-75), which
claimed an estimated 3.5m. And the Soviet-Afghan War (1979-89), which
claimed an estimated 2m. To name but a few.

Indeed, far from being the bloodiest conflict since 1960, the war in Gaza isn’t
even the bloodiest being fought right now. The Syrian civil war, which began
in 2011, has so far killed more than 600,000 people. Then there’s the small matter of Russia’s war in
Ukraine. And, as mentioned in Saturday’s Way of the World, the ongoing
conflict in Sudan. To give just one small glimpse of the horror: a 17-year-old
Sudanese boy told Human Rights Watch that he’d witnessed paramilitaries
shooting children and then flinging
their corpses into a river.

St Gary, however, says he can’t think of anything that he’s seen worse in his
lifetime than what Israel is currently doing in Gaza, in its efforts to destroy
Hamas. I’ve no doubt that he’s being entirely sincere. I merely wonder how
he came to such a conclusion,
given that so many other conflicts in his lifetime have been even more
horrifying, and killed vastly more people.

Perhaps, during his glorious playing days, St Gary was so relentlessly focused
on his football that he never watched the news or opened a newspaper – and
therefore simply didn’t hear about these other conflicts. I suppose that’s one
possibility.

Even so, it is curious that Western progressives in general always seem so
very much louder in their condemnation of Israel than in their condemnation
of other warring nations. What exactly is it about Israel that makes them
constantly single it out like this?

I fear we may never know.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...his-worst-yet/

[parmnion]

And we all know gary would be barging people out the way to be first on the plane to israel if the world cup was held there.

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