[Livia]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Oh if only all Humans were the same and needed no special help or support.

People are different with different needs and feelings and insecurities.
Whether very poor to very rich.
Regardless of what their jobs or careers are..

Also Olly didn't get nil points he got 46.
None from the public vote but not nil points.

Plus how do you know others who've done badly in Eurovision haven't needed and got support badly needed once it was over.

I'm not talking about humans generally, I'm taking about performers in show business. And I don't know others haven't needed help afterwards. I just don't know why people are wringing their hands for Ollie, or how they know about his mental health problems. He's a successful performer. I believe there are people suffering worse and they're the ones who deserve out sympathy and empathy.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm not talking about humans generally, I'm taking about performers in show business. And I don't know others haven't needed help afterwards. I just don't know why people are wringing their hands for Ollie, or how they know about his mental health problems. He's a successful performer. I believe there are people suffering worse and they're the ones who deserve out sympathy and empathy.

There are many celebrities in show business despite having so called friends in show business.
Have been found dead alone or even taken their own lives too.

I repeat, there's no norm.
People are all different.
People deal with pressures differently.
Whether very poor or very rich.

It's no different for celebrities.
Whether, actors, singers or presenters.
Support and being uplifted can be needed by them as well as anyone else in every walk of life.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

There are many celebrities in show business despite having so called friends in show business.
Have been found dead alone or even taken their own lives too.

I repeat, there's no norm.
People are all different.
People deal with pressures differently.
Whether very poor or very rich.

It's no different for celebrities.
Whether, actors, singers or presenters.
Support and being uplifted can be needed by them as well as anyone else in every walk of life.

I think maybe you're just a much nicer person than I am.