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Old 23-05-2024, 09:23 PM #26
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I already did
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Aah ok. I should have known, but never let it be said I'm not an optimist
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er I never said they did? which was kinda my point....
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Let’s be honest if a teacher has to tell you about your own child then you’re a piss poor parent.

No one has the right or place to out anybody and if you believe they should then you’re an awful person
You would know all about parenting...you are a parent?
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jeez Kate dont go green, they think women have penises
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Aw Kate you must be even more confused after this thread.

Stick all the names of the different Parties standing in your constituency, ( preferably leaving the Cons out though), in a cup or hat and pick one out.

Unless you've managed to securely satisfy yourself on Reform.
Good luck.
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You would know all about parenting...you are a parent?
You don’t have to be a parent to know how to support and love a child. Quite embarrassing on you that you’ve tried that angle.

Stand by what I said, a teacher doesn’t and should not have the right to out a child to their parents. If you think they do then you’re an awful person. Simple as really.
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Yes, I'm sure.

This is the same playbook they' try using against anyone in favour of justice for all. Every one is a terrorist or an anti Semite.

After they successfully did this to Corbyn, they think they can drag the same playbook out against anyone remotely progressive, but Gaza has opened a lot of eyes to the false smears, so it won't work as well this time.
Don't forget that some of the right do love to accuse the left of "grooming" kids, even if there's no evidence of any wrongdoing in that particular area.

Obviously Arista hasn't said that, but I have noticed that some of the right like to play the "think of the children" card.
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Just had a look at the manifesto and would follow floridas Don’t Say Gay bill that allows teachers to out students. No thank you

“ Inform parents of under 16s about their children’s life decisions.”
George Galloway's far left party made derogatory remarks about gay people as well. The far left support homophobic terrorist organisations like hamas. Who killed their commander Mahmoud Ishtiwi for being homosexual. You cant just accuse the right or conservatives of hating gays.
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Where did I say they hated gays? I said no one should have the right to out anyone
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George Galloway's far left party made derogatory remarks about gay people as well. The far left support homophobic terrorist organisations like hamas. Who killed their commander Mahmoud Ishtiwi for being homosexual. You cant just accuse the right or conservatives of hating gays.
Hardcore Religious groups (Hamas being one of them) do tend to be Homophobic.
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…it’s your vote, Kate…and you must vote for whoever you feel is where you want to place your vote…let it come from you, though…and not be influenced by the views or thoughts of others etc…everyone has their own vote to focus on…
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i think people should forget about political party's and vote for the local mp that you think is the most honest and has the most integrity.

This is the only way to remove slime balls from politics and it also means the party that wins is the party with the most integrity.

I have no idea why people don't vote this way by default rather than being tribal
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…it’s your vote, Kate…and you must vote for whoever you feel is where you want to place your vote…let it come from you, though…and not be influenced by the views or thoughts of others etc…everyone has their own vote to focus on…
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I think this thread had more posts at one point weird maybe I'm mistaken.
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reform are an even more extreme version of ukip. If people really want to veer toward Trump type politics in the UK then reform is their best choice.

Wave goodbye to any form of democracy
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I think this thread had more posts at one point weird maybe I'm mistaken.
All of Smudgies posts were removed late last night. She went on a rant about multiculturalism and Tony Blair and George Soros - got very nasty very quickly.

At one point she claimed that many Eastenders scripts were written by an elite Jewish Cabal based in California and that Barry (off of Eastenders) had a tattoo on his buttocks that said "Zionism will win"

She did say she had been drinking cooking sherry from like 6 am (again?

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I've made some headway with my decision. I'm definitely going to vote (was going to abstain originally) but 100% NOT for Tory or Labour parties.

I've voted Labour all my life but Keir Starmers policies go against the grain for me and I don't want him in power.

So I'm still considering which way to go.
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reform are an even more extreme version of ukip. If people really want to veer toward Trump type politics in the UK then reform is their best choice.

Wave goodbye to any form of democracy
I more agree here.

UKIP, I quite liked some of their social policies.
However on Europe, the NHS and immigration.
I could never have looked at UKIP.

Reform however I think you describe them correctly.
An even more extreme version of UKIP.

I'm afraid I like more justice, fairness, compromise and compassion in my politics.
Which is why I am where I am politically.

I want this rotten government out, so until we've got PR in elections.
There's only one certain way to get them out.
I hope it happens.
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You don’t have to be a parent to know how to support and love a child. Quite embarrassing on you that you’ve tried that angle.

Stand by what I said, a teacher doesn’t and should not have the right to out a child to their parents. If you think they do then you’re an awful person. Simple as really.
It's not really that simple. There are cases where it's implicitly inevitable.

Here's something that happened in a school I was working at; I didn't directly work with either child, so it had nothing to do with me. So thankfully I didn't need to be involved too much.

But there were two lads who were ... not exactly "going out", but both liked each other. They were planning a sleepover, and in the circumstances it was a safeguarding issue, due to age of consent.

If they were a boy and a girl, the school would immediately tell both sets of parents, almost automatically. But of only one was out to his family, which murkied the waters a bit.
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You don’t have to be a parent to know how to support and love a child. Quite embarrassing on you that you’ve tried that angle.

Stand by what I said, a teacher doesn’t and should not have the right to out a child to their parents. If you think they do then you’re an awful person. Simple as really.
Its not an embarrassing angle at all, you will never have the responsibility and all that that entails the good and the bad until you are a parent, its very easy to parent someone elses child ....bit like back seat drivers
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All of Smudgies posts were removed late last night. She went on a rant about multiculturalism and Tony Blair and George Soros - got very nasty very quickly.

At one point she claimed that many Eastenders scripts were written by an elite Jewish Cabal based in California and that Barry (off of Eastenders) had a tattoo on his buttocks that said "Zionism will win"

She did say she had been drinking cooking sherry from like 6 am (again?

Shhhhhhhh, what is said in a tipsy sherry state should never be repeated.
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It's not really that simple. There are cases where it's implicitly inevitable.

Here's something that happened in a school I was working at; I didn't directly work with either child, so it had nothing to do with me. So thankfully I didn't need to be involved too much.

But there were two lads who were ... not exactly "going out", but both liked each other. They were planning a sleepover, and in the circumstances it was a safeguarding issue, due to age of consent.

If they were a boy and a girl, the school would immediately tell both sets of parents, almost automatically. But of only one was out to his family, which murkied the waters a bit.

Great post and spot on Oliver…
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