[Kate!]

I'm totally with LT on this.

[Parmy]

Diane Abbott says very racist things, gets sent on a course...not racist anymore.


Tommy Robinson, once a racist always a racist.

I love the lefts way of thinking, not thinking.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Diane Abbott says very racist things, gets sent on a course...not racist anymore.


Tommy Robinson, once a racist always a racist.

I love the lefts way of thinking, not thinking.

As you've tried this a couple of times now, let's play. What are the very racist things Diane has said?

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

As you've tried this a couple of times now, let's play. What are the very racist things Diane has said?

Just have a look at her wiki page, all the scandal is there.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Just have a look at her wiki page, all the scandal is there.

You keep making the claim, so you should be well aware of what her comments are/were. You shouldn't have needed to run off to wiki for Back up. If you want to have the conversation (which I'm up for) then post the evidence.

[DemRed]

I don't like any of the leading figures of any of the parties.
Can't stand Starmer or Sunak.
Quite like Bridgen, but he always speaks to an empty house.

[DemRed]

I likeTrump and I used to dispise him. I'm also really pleased that Robert Kennedy Junior has put himself forward for the presidential campaign. I used to like Biden, but now I can't stand him.

I can't say I like anyone of any importance in our government.
I admire Galloway because he cuts through the bullshit.

I just wish we had a few Robert Kennedy's or Rand Pauls over here.
You don't have to be Left or Right. Nothing wrong with just picking out the policies you like, regardless of which party they come from.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by DemRed

I likeTrump and I used to dispise him. I'm also really pleased that Robert Kennedy Junior has put himself forward for the presidential campaign. I used to like Biden, but now I can't stand him.

I can't say I like anyone of any importance in our government.
I admire Galloway because he cuts through the bullshit.

I just wish we had a few Robert Kennedy's or Rand Pauls over here.
You don't have to be Left or Right. Nothing wrong with just picking out the policies you like, regardless of which party they come from.

What’s to like about Trump .. serious question !

I’m genuinely curious


I used to get stick for liking Boris but at least he appeared to be a nice, harmless guy ..

Can’t say that about Trump at all


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[DemRed]

Originally Posted by Zizu

WhatÂ’s to like about Trump .. serious question !

IÂ’m genuinely curious


I used to get stick for liking Boris but at least he appeared to be a nice, harmless guy ..

CanÂ’t say that about Trump at all


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

You have to put aside that he's a loose cannon and a gobby one at that. Truly though, he doesn't take any bullshit.

He has called man made climate change a hoax, whilst at the same time, reminding us of how serious we must be about looking after our planet.

He's built up industry in the US. So much so that over 4 million people were employed in these industries and started to collect half decent salaries. He supported small business and put money into reastablishing them. At the end of his term the US had the lowest unemployment rate ever recorded

He made tax cuts, which radically lifted the economy (which had been previously suffering prior to him being elected)

He wasn't a war monger. Rather than pour petrol on Russia and North Korea, he made a point of making peace with them.

A lot of people kicked off about his policy on putting lone kids crossing the Mexican borer into children's homes. I remember being horrified about this, but then I learnt that many of these kids end up being sex trafficked. That's what he was stopping.

The list goes on. And of course he did some crap things like not including Palestine in the Abraham accords. He did though, do a lot more for the American people than previous presidents.

Edited to say: I believe when any new President or PM get into power, they are hugely dominated by what I call, 'the men in black'. When Trump was elected he was his own man, I think he was probably the first president, in a long time, who ran the country how he wanted to run it and he was hated by many at the top for doing so.

[Glenn.]

wiki

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

wiki

Unless you've got her number then I'm all ears as to what you use to gain knowledge about someone.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Unless you've got her number then I'm all ears as to what you use to gain knowledge about someone.

Certainly not a website that ANYONE can edit I don’t that’s for sure.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Certainly not a website that ANYONE can edit I don’t that’s for sure.

What do you use then? I will copy and paste from there, instead of pointing slim towards wiki.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

What do you use then? I will copy and paste from there, instead of pointing slim towards wiki.

You’re the one trying to prove a point… you do it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

28 posts so far

40% just having a go at Kate because "they" disapprove of the 2 people Kate chose

usual suspects

you know the ones who love to hurl about "echo chamber and hive mind" as an insult to others

you could not make it up

#irony

[Cherie]

A hive mind

a notional entity consisting of a large number of people who share their knowledge or opinions with one another, regarded as producing either uncritical conformity or collective intelligence:
"he has become one of those celebrities whose online presence has made him a favourite of the internet hive mind" · "we appeal to the company hive mind when we're stuck"
(in science fiction) a unified consciousness or intelligence formed by a number of alien individuals, the resulting consciousness typically exerting control over its constituent members:
"there is a Borg Queen who controls the hive mind"

Arista is the Borg Queen I believe

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

28 posts so far

40% just having a go at Kate because "they" disapprove of the 2 people Kate chose

usual suspects

you know the ones who love to hurl about "echo chamber and hive mind" as an insult to others

you could not make it up

#irony

Please quote the words I've used to "have a go at Kate." As for the rest, it seems my point has struck a bit of a nerve. No counter point, no nothing.

The echo is loud. I was referring back to a previous conversation I've had with SB on the forum. Funny how it wasn't considered an insult to members at the time, but hey ho.

Seems like someone is most definitely making it up

[Parmy]

Ms Abbott had served as a Labour MP since 1987, but was suspended from sitting in the parliamentary party in 2023 after she said Irish, Jewish and Traveller people were not subject to racism "all their lives". She withdrew her remarks and apologised "for any anguish caused

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Ms Abbott had served as a Labour MP since 1987, but was suspended from sitting in the parliamentary party in 2023 after she said Irish, Jewish and Traveller people were not subject to racism "all their lives". She withdrew her remarks and apologised "for any anguish caused

That's the very racist thing she said?

Any context?

It was an insensitive comment, but I don't believe it was in any way racist.

David Baddiel's niece is a bi-racial Jewish woman, and here she is making exactly the same point.

Any other "very racist" comments you want to discuss?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Ms Abbott had served as a Labour MP since 1987, but was suspended from sitting in the parliamentary party in 2023 after she said Irish, Jewish and Traveller people were not subject to racism "all their lives". She withdrew her remarks and apologised "for any anguish caused

Might be an ignorant comment but hardly racist

[Parmy]

During an interview in 2010, Ms Abbott, who represents Hackney North and Stoke Newington in London, said “West Indian mums will go to the wall for their children” when trying to justify her reason for sending her son to a private school.

Mr Neil, who was interviewing Ms Abbott at the time, responded by saying: “So black mums love their kids more than white mums, do they?” He suggested that Ms Abbott’s remark was racist, which she denied.


A lifelong socialist, Ms Abbott has criticised the private education system and in 2003 hit out at her colleague, Harriet Harman, for sending her son to a grammar school.

In a 2018 article for the Labour List website Ms Abbott wrote that socialism “cannot be elitist or sectoral”.

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In 2012 Ms Abbott sparked outrage among taxi drivers after suggesting they were racists.

In a message on Twitter, Ms Abbott wrote: “Dubious of black people claiming they’ve never experienced racism. Ever tried hailing a taxi I always wonder?”

Steve McNamara, of the Licensed Taxi Drivers Association, described the comment as “at worst, racist and at best, stupid”.

“We find it amazing that in this day and age someone in Diane Abbott’s position can try to resurrect the stereotypes from the 1960s,” he said.

“At worst she is racist and at best she is stupid in making comments like that. Either way, she should go,” he added.

Car crash LBC interview

In 2017 Ms Abbott stumbled through an explanation of her party’s plan for an additional 10,000 police officers.

During an interview with LBC, the Shadow Home Secretary gave several estimates for how much the new officers would cost, ranging from £300,000 to £80m.

Ms Abbott was later forced to listen back to the excruciating interview when she appeared on the BBC.

Drinking a mojito on the London Overground

In 2019 Ms Abbott was forced to apologise after getting caught drinking alcohol on the London Overground network.

A photograph of the then shadow home secretary sipping an M&S canned mojito drink was published on The Sun’s website

Transport for London (TfL) introduced an alcohol ban on all public transport in the capital in 2008.

Ms Abbott said she was “sincerely sorry” for drinking the Marks and Spencer cocktail.

“A photo of me drinking from a can of M&S mojito on the Overground has been circulated,” the Labour frontbencher wrote on Twitter: “I’m sincerely sorry for drinking on TFL.”

One Twitter user quipped at the time: “Put it in a water bottle next time.”

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[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

During an interview in 2010, Ms Abbott, who represents Hackney North and Stoke Newington in London, said “West Indian mums will go to the wall for their children” when trying to justify her reason for sending her son to a private school.

Mr Neil, who was interviewing Ms Abbott at the time, responded by saying: “So black mums love their kids more than white mums, do they?” He suggested that Ms Abbott’s remark was racist, which she denied.


A lifelong socialist, Ms Abbott has criticised the private education system and in 2003 hit out at her colleague, Harriet Harman, for sending her son to a grammar school.

In a 2018 article for the Labour List website Ms Abbott wrote that socialism “cannot be elitist or sectoral”.

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In 2012 Ms Abbott sparked outrage among taxi drivers after suggesting they were racists.

In a message on Twitter, Ms Abbott wrote: “Dubious of black people claiming they’ve never experienced racism. Ever tried hailing a taxi I always wonder?”

Steve McNamara, of the Licensed Taxi Drivers Association, described the comment as “at worst, racist and at best, stupid”.

“We find it amazing that in this day and age someone in Diane Abbott’s position can try to resurrect the stereotypes from the 1960s,” he said.

“At worst she is racist and at best she is stupid in making comments like that. Either way, she should go,” he added.

Car crash LBC interview

In 2017 Ms Abbott stumbled through an explanation of her party’s plan for an additional 10,000 police officers.

During an interview with LBC, the Shadow Home Secretary gave several estimates for how much the new officers would cost, ranging from £300,000 to £80m.

Ms Abbott was later forced to listen back to the excruciating interview when she appeared on the BBC.

Drinking a mojito on the London Overground

In 2019 Ms Abbott was forced to apologise after getting caught drinking alcohol on the London Overground network.

A photograph of the then shadow home secretary sipping an M&S canned mojito drink was published on The Sun’s website

Transport for London (TfL) introduced an alcohol ban on all public transport in the capital in 2008.

Ms Abbott said she was “sincerely sorry” for drinking the Marks and Spencer cocktail.

“A photo of me drinking from a can of M&S mojito on the Overground has been circulated,” the Labour frontbencher wrote on Twitter: “I’m sincerely sorry for drinking on TFL.”

One Twitter user quipped at the time: “Put it in a water bottle next time.”

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You ok?

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You ok?

That's why I dont post my proof.

[Parmy]

You are wasting your time slim, I've just been infracted..so someones stirring ****, to report the bite backs...

Laters...

Ps, she is racist.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You are wasting your time slim, I've just been infracted..so someones stirring ****, to report the bite backs...

Laters...

Ps, she is racist.

I don't know what you're on about. If you want to have the conversation you started, then I'm up for it, if you don't, then fair enough, but don't waste your time posting the same thing under all of my posts again.