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i won't be watching any debate. Really, what's the point

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i won't be watching any debate. Really, what's the point

Live Audiences can get Angry at Starmer

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Originally Posted by arista

Live Audiences can get Angry at Starmer

and that's interesting?

[Livia]

I'm with Bots... I'm totally sick of it already.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

and that's interesting?

It can be....

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm with Bots... I'm totally sick of it already.

I understand that
as it is like Ed Davey
yesterday fell in the water 5 times,
just to get on the news.


He even admitted
he was doing that

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

I understand that
as it is like Ed Davey
yesterday fell in the water 5 times,
just to get on the news.


He even admitted
he was doing that

I know... I felt embarrassed for him.

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No debates for me.
It’s all waffle and lies.
Ed Davey is a ruddy clown, he does these stunts at every opportunity, can’t take him seriously I think.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Yes I'll try to in a small way hopefully Kazanne.

I think you'll recall when Mr ugh Blair won in 1997.
He started to get the then waiting lists down by bringing in private sources.
This is Streeting's plan too to help with that.

I'm pleased too that Wes Streeting realises that major reform of the NHS will be necessary.
Not to break it's core founding of care free at the point of need.
However to make more of the resources already in place which are not being used more efficiently.

Plus, he's looking to have weekend working too, which will help considerably in dealing with the backlog in conjunction too with the private input too.

That's the starting point and sorry I was only 5 when this was done from 1997.
However it had a big impact on the then high waiting list that had built up to 1997.

I think too, and he's rightly said even today, he cannot give the Junior Doctors anything like 35% on wages.
However he will meet regularly and negotiate across the board on all their concerns not just pay.

Myself, I believe he can then just with those things, start to substantially bring down the waiting lists.
It's scandalous to me that elderly people are on the list for operations for cataracts, knee and hip operations for a year and in many cases years.

Plus too, digressing now, if Streeting's looking for ideas to fully reform the NHS .
Then if I was him, I'd start by phasing out the parasitical trust management set up.
Get back to something like Matrons running hospitals.

Those trust managers and their endless number of admin staff for them.
Contribute not a single thing to hands on care.
I'd rather see them replaced by new Doctors and Nurses.
That's what I'd like to see.

It's not going to be easy and I don't want to get party political with you because I know you genuinely believe in the Conservatives and respect that.

However the confrontational attitude towards Junior Doctors and the lip service to the NHS as to how great it is, is NOT going to do much to bring down waiting lists.

Hope I've said some little thing to help answer your query there Kazanne

Thankyou Joey . I am undecided at the moment as to who to vote for , but I am agreeing with you in the fact that some of the old style NHS would be better (matrons etc) also i think those at the top should be overhauled. I do think a lot is wasted, I wish you luck with your campaign,exciting times for you x

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Thankyou Joey . I am undecided at the moment as to who to vote for , but I am agreeing with you in the fact that some of the old style NHS would be better (matrons etc) also i think those at the top should be overhauled. I do think a lot is wasted, I wish you luck with your campaign,exciting times for you x

Aw thank you Kazanne.
A lot of hard work coming up, as you say exciting times for me at last in an election

However, I know politics is volatile, so anything can happen in a week or two never mind 5 weeks.

I do think the NHS was better decades ago.
I wasn't around obviously, however it looks to me that more like in the 50s to 70s the answers were there and we had them as to the NHS.

Now we're left with only the questions about it again.
That's REALLY concerning.

All my best and thinking of you Kazanne

[Alf]

[arista]

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i won't be watching any debate. Really, what's the point

It is genuinely a waste of time, watching a bunch of fully grown men and women spinning fairytales about what the country will look like if they're elected. Less than 10% of it ever actually happens.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

The thing is, only about 1/3 of these are actually contradictory statements they're just being framed that way. It's not great that he's made any at all of course.

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He just said Rwanda?

But he must win the General Election
for that to work.................



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