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Old 31-05-2024, 02:53 PM #126
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The dems just don't know what to do against Trump. If they take the high ground, they effectively disengage from the argument. Trump can come out with something new and obscene every day, and the dems will scream with outrage and the public say oh there goes trump again being trump. The public largely don't care. The dems are now saying trump said the n word 25 years ago .... i mean, wtf .... do they honestly think chasing that down will win them an election?

I saw Biden at some campaign event yesterday, and he looked old. He doesn't plaster on the make up and dye his hair ..... and he looks the age that he is 80+.

Trump goes on stage, fluffs his words, talks crap, but he has sun tan make up and dyed hair. Perception is everything

The dems should have won this election without trying, but it should have been with a different candidate. Simple
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People will hold their noses at his senility, but I think Gaza is much the bigger issue. His path to victory is always through the young, and PoC. He's screwed the pooch with both of them.
What are their alternatives in the US though? It's not like Trump is falling over himself to support Palestinian children. I suppose turnout could be an issue.
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The dems just don't know what to do against Trump. If they take the high ground, they effectively disengage from the argument. Trump can come out with something new and obscene every day, and the dems will scream with outrage and the public say oh there goes trump again being trump. The public largely don't care. The dems are now saying trump said the n word 25 years ago .... i mean, wtf .... do they honestly think chasing that down will win them an election?

I saw Biden at some campaign event yesterday, and he looked old. He doesn't plaster on the make up and dye his hair ..... and he looks the age that he is 80+.

Trump goes on stage, fluffs his words, talks crap, but he has sun tan make up and dyed hair. Perception is everything

The dems should have won this election without trying, but it should have been with a different candidate. Simple
Trump has definitely started to decline in his public appearances too - but he's where Biden was 4 years ago (unsurprisingly, as he is coincidentally 4 years younger). Biden always had his fluff-ups but they're noticeably increasing. There was "plausible deniability" in 2020 that a lot of it was just his speech impediment etc. but not so much at this point, he gets cleary and obviously confused.
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What are their alternatives in the US though? It's not like Trump is falling over himself to support Palestinian children. I suppose turnout could be an issue.
The alternative is not to vote at all. Trump has come out and said he'll crush the campus protesters on his first day in office, but I think Bidens optics over trumps bluster is always more shocking and is reality.

I have no worries that trump will be able to get more voters than he got last time, but US elections are weird. Hilary lost her election by a total of 25k votes across 3 or 4 states. it doesn't take a lot to happen for those margins to be in play again. That's without understanding that MAGA have been trying to get themselves in influential positions when it comes to election supervision, and signing them off.

I could be completely wrong, but I just don't see Biden winning at this point in time.
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TRUMP now Live

All 3 News Channels


Talking about Illegals
Crazy Biden Taxes

Biden getting China to make his cars

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Good grief
He's going on like a madman.
Really frightening in part to think of him as President again.
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The alternative is not to vote at all. Trump has come out and said he'll crush the campus protesters on his first day in office, but I think Bidens optics over trumps bluster is always more shocking and is reality.

I have no worries that trump will be able to get more voters than he got last time, but US elections are weird. Hilary lost her election by a total of 25k votes across 3 or 4 states. it doesn't take a lot to happen for those margins to be in play again. That's without understanding that MAGA have been trying to get themselves in influential positions when it comes to election supervision, and signing them off.

I could be completely wrong, but I just don't see Biden winning at this point in time.

A lot of the reason Hillary didn't win, was because people simply didn't like her, and she was way ahead in the polls, so people just didn't bother voting. As you say, it doesn't take much change at swing states to actually win the election. Let's also not forget the election interference

So, this time round, i actually think its a good thing that the polls are close, because it forces people out to vote, and bidens vote pool should be much larger than trumps, meaning he should win .... but will i put a bet on it? If i'm betting any way, it will be for a Biden win
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A lot of the reason Hillary didn't win, was because people simply didn't like her, and she was way ahead in the polls, so people just didn't bother voting. As you say, it doesn't take much change at swing states to actually win the election. Let's also not forget the election interference

So, this time round, i actually think its a good thing that the polls are close, because it forces people out to vote, and bidens vote pool should be much larger than trumps, meaning he should win .... but will i put a bet on it? If i'm betting any way, it will be for a Biden win
Quick point about vote pools and US elections. They always come down to a few votes in a few states. The fact Biden had 8 million more voters last time is an irrelevance. It's about voting pools in very specific counties and cities and there just isn't a lot of room to play with.

I'm not sure what the demographics are in those states, and I can't be arsed to look, so it may mean that Biden losing young and PoC coastal or city voters won't have any impact at all on the races that matter, or it could just completely wipe his chances off the (electoral) map.
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Good grief
He's going on like a madman.
Really frightening in part to think of him as President again.

No, He is Talking to the USA Side that wants him
as the Next President.


I do hope Newsnight BBC2HD 35mins
does not waste the whole show on Trump
Again

Last night I was Fast Forwarding it
but it was ALL about Trump? THE whole BBC show was Trump

I would have liked 10mins on the General Election, Joey

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No He is Talking to the USA Sode that wants him
as the Next President.


I do hope Newsnight BBC2HD 35mins
does not waste the whole show on Trump


Last night I was Fast Forwarding it
but it was ALL about Trump? THE whole BBC show was Trump

I would have liked 10mins on the General Election, Joey
Is your love affair with Trump beginning to wane? I can't imagine many times when you would have said you wanted less trump on your TV.

Next up we'll have @Alf telling us that Q may have been making it up for sh1ts and giggles.
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Is your love affair with Trump beginning to wane? I can't imagine many times when you would have said you wanted less trump on your TV.

Next up we'll have @Alf telling us that Q may have been making it up for sh1ts and giggles.

No Slim

But I want New News

Not Bloody repeats

New Debates Live.

BBC2 Newsnight - can not update me
The General Election should have been on last nights 35mins



Like Now BBC news have left Trump
gone to their poxy reporter

The other 2 News letting him Speak Live
which I prefer - All uncut

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TRUMP just now:

"We raised a record of $39,000,000 in 10 hours."

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I'm sure trump did collect a lot yesterday, but, the biden campaign has much more money, and already has infrastructure in place that the gop hasn't even begun yet.

What Trump is ignoring is that the gop have to fight for congress all over the country too, not just the presidential election and lawyers fees
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I don't know the circumstances behind the Clinton story, but she doesn't seem very hidden, in the same way Trump tried to hide Daniels and McDougal. Paying off people is not a crime. Paying off people to sway an election is definitely a crime.
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Just watched Trump spouting garbage about appealing all his guilty verdicts. Why does the orange cretin get airtime? Cannot stand him.
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I'm sure trump did collect a lot yesterday, but, the biden campaign has much more money, and already has infrastructure in place that the gop hasn't even begun yet.

What Trump is ignoring is that the gop have to fight for congress all over the country too, not just the presidential election and lawyers fees
I think congress and senate races are going to annihilate the republicans, they’ve already lost the majority of the special races over the past year, they massively underperformed at the midterms and they’re the races the democrat fundraisers/campaigners are focusing on, if Biden were to lose the presidency, which I don’t think he will, I think the dems will still easily win both the senate and congress
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Just watched Trump spouting garbage about appealing all his guilty verdicts. Why does the orange cretin get airtime? Cannot stand him.
Your British champ Farage quite likes old Trump, @Kate!

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Your British champ Farage quite likes old Trump, @Kate!
Oh Farage is a strong supporter of Trump SB.
He's planning it was said to go to the States to help canvass a win for him later in the year.

I can't bear Trump at all.
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Farage has been offered a place in the Trump administration if he wins, thats one of the reasons farage isn't standing as a reform candidate
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Is your love affair with Trump beginning to wane? I can't imagine many times when you would have said you wanted less trump on your TV.

Next up we'll have @Alf telling us that Q may have been making it up for sh1ts and giggles.
Q has got everything correct so far.

Q is the gospel.
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Missed this..

Lol, hes some man. He should have killed her like the rest of them do.
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