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Old 05-06-2024, 11:08 AM #1951
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That’s 4 out of 10,000 and Rooney was a freak of nature





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8 Dec 2023 — Overall, FIFA estimated that there were 123,694 professional soccer players worldwide.


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Maybe she is a freak of nature, too?

They will definitely be in the minority, but there will be hundreds/thousands of people who don't conform to what you have decided should be the standard.
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Maybe she is a freak of nature, too?

They will definitely be in the minority, but there will be hundreds/thousands of people who don't conform to what you have decided should be the standard.

She ain’t no Gazza ..




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OK, zeez. You're getting perilously close to Arista levels of woman hate. I think I'll leave you to your opinion and keep it moving.
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OK, zeez. You're getting perilously close to Arista levels of woman hate. I think I'll leave you to your opinion and keep it moving.

Women hate !?


I absolutely worship and adore women…

Just not a fan of women’s football / boxing or professional sportspeople not being professional ( fit) or female soccer pundits taking work off the more respected male counterparts

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You suggested she may be a freak of nature when in fact she’s nothing special . She stands out because the level of the others is average ( at best) compared to proper football.
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Incidentally Gazza and Rooney were both unprofessional to their cost !

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For, the feeling persists that Rooney could have eked more from his body. That might seem harsh, but the talent Rooney possessed dictates that his career should be measured against the highest standards.
And those standards are set by his former team-mate Ronaldo. Why? Well, there was, of course, a debate, roughly a decade ago, as to who was the better player. It seems almost laughable now. The debate becomes a little less laughable when it is crystallised down to who was the more talented player. It remains a debate with no definite answer. And the gulf in those two debates answers the question as to whether Rooney fulfilled his potential: the answer is no and by a distance.
The fact Rooney's most impressive showing in the international arena came at the Euros in 2004, when he was still an Everton player, demonstrates both the level of his potential at such a tender age and his inability to capitalise on it in the peak years of his career. Granted, there were mitigating factors, but his showings at international tournaments from that peak in Portugal were largely forgettable.
Alongside those mitigating circumstances, lies further context. Rooney, in this opinion, lived right on the edge of the guidelines, wavered at times and, as such, did not fulfil his incredible potential.
There are instances that add weight to the argument that Rooney had strayed outside these guidelines; like when he was dropped on New Year's Eve in 2011 for, what boss Sir Alex Ferguson saw as a "lethargic” showing in training following Christmas celebrations and in 2013, for the crucial Champions League second-leg tie against Real Madrid, he was once again jettisoned to the bench. Louis van Gaal also dropped him during his tenure. It is a failure of professionalism to be dropped for training indiscretions, and a failure that has not punctuated the careers of Ronaldo or Messi. Again this is not to say Rooney has not, did not and does not make huge sacrifices for his craft but has he made total sacrifice for his craft?


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Sooooooo

Why are ManU extending Johnny Evans’s contract BEFORE a decision on the manager has been made ?!?


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…. and why is Connor Gallagher earning just a quarter of Fernandez or Kickedo earn ?!?


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because Man U are moving to a system where the manager has next to no input on who is in the squad. It stops the squad being a mismatch of incompatible players who were favoured by a long list of previous managers.

It's a sensible approach if you don't intend to keep a manager long term
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Maddison has walked out of the England camp !!


Fell out with fecking Southgate apparently

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Fell out with fecking Southgate apparently

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Typical England player.

Bladdy Southgate will blow yet another tournament
I dread to think who else he leaves out

Ezi , Palmer , TAA , Toney

I swear if he leaves out any of these fabulously talented guys to incorporate Shaw , Gallagher, Jones and Bowen then I will be supporting Spain


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Bladdy Southgate will blow yet another tournament
I dread to think who else he leaves out

Ezi , Palmer , TAA , Toney

I swear if he leaves out any of these fabulously talented guys to incorporate Shaw , Gallagher, Jones and Bowen then I will be supporting Spain


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I'll support England regardless.

I'm prepared for us to lose though, regardless of who gets picked.
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Sounds like Jarell Quansah will be next to go home ffs


Don’t tell me flaming Dunk is a better option !

Quansah played at a better level all season , finished the season strongly .. whilst Dunk was possibly the main reason for Brighton’s poor season.. making loads of ricks !


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Curtis Jones has gone home ( no great loss)

Three players not able to train due to injuries

Dunk
Maguire
Shaw


Southgate is gonna mess things up before we even set off .. I can feel it in my water ..


He’s gonna send home a couple of the strikers plus Liverpool’s fabulous, in form defender Jarell Quansah and keep those three injured, blooper prone defenders above


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What the actual F*K. !!


Latest is Jack Grealish who’s been ditched along with Maddison !!


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Southgate reportedly sending home Maguire , Kuansa and Branthwaite !!


So that leaves Walker , Stones ( unfit ) , Dunk ( useless) and Luke Shaw ( lingering hamstring problem) !!

Keystone Kops defence and discarding two if our super-talented guys ( Grealish and Maddison )


We have no chance of winning !


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Grealish didn't play much for Citeh this year absolutely no loss
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Here we go . . .
England’s final Euro 2024 squad announced.

Goalkeepers Dean Henderson (Crystal Palace), Jordan Pickford (Everton), Aaron Ramsdale (Arsenal).

Defenders Lewis Dunk (Brighton & Hove Albion), Joe Gomez (Liverpool), Marc Guehi (Crystal Palace), Ezri Konsa (Aston Villa), Luke Shaw (Manchester United), John Stones (Manchester City), Kieran Trippier (Newcastle United), Kyle Walker (Manchester City).

Midfielders Trent Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Conor Gallagher (Chelsea), Kobbie Mainoo (Manchester United), Declan Rice (Arsenal), Adam Wharton (Crystal Palace).

Forwards: Jude Bellingham (Real Madrid), Jarrod Bowen (West Ham United), Eberechi Eze (Crystal Palace), Phil Foden (Manchester City), Anthony Gordon (Newcastle United), Harry Kane (Bayern Munich), Cole Palmer (Chelsea), Bukayo Saka (Arsenal), Ivan Toney (Brentford), Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa).
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Who has missed out?

Jarrod Branthwaite
Harry Maguire
James Maddison
Jack Grealish
Jarrell Quansah
Curtis Jones
James Trafford
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The Branthwaite omission is a bit suspect.

Luke Shaw will likely get injured again during the euros and be unavailable to play for united

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Quansah has had a stand out season and I feel he deserved to be there over the likes of Dunk, but it could come back to bite Southgate if he now choices to change nationalities
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Grealish didn't play much for Citeh this year absolutely no loss

He was just getting back to fitness though as was Maddison- both game changers .

Bowen’s final pass the other night was woeful plus he’s the 4th best in that position .


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