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Setting up a gofund account when there is no described function for it is very, very dodgy

If he truly has disappeared/harm has come to him then it will be upsetting for the family, but there is concrete evidence that he was involved in a life of violent crime, so I personally, have zero sympathy for him, and i'm sure most have the same opinion
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I'm open minded to the idea.

And tbh it'd be the happier ending.
It's certainly quite murky, whatever is going on.
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…I have no idea what the truth of any of Jay’s disappearance is…but if there is any aspects of ‘being staged’ or any variation of that then there are so many layers of that…there are so many very valuable and very limited police/authority resources being used up in the search that could possibly be making a difference elsewhere…anyway, let’s see what today brings…
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…I have no idea what the truth of any of Jay’s disappearance is…but if there is any aspects of ‘being staged’ or any variation of that then there are so many layers of that…there are so many very valuable and very limited police/authority resources being used up in the search that could possibly be making a difference elsewhere…anyway, let’s see what today brings…
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…with regard to the GoFundMe page/account which apparently has Jay’s family approval…?..I can understand that taking time away from work and travelling to and from Tenerife with accommodation as well etc, will take much financial resource and that help might be needed with that…?…but Jay’s disappearance is only a few days so how is it being thought that many to and from visits might be what the family will be doing…that potentially much time away from employment might be needed and financial help might be needed etc…there are sightings so it’s hoped that he’ll be found safe and well and yet it’s ‘predicted’ to be quite a long period of looking for him…?..I think that I’m beginning to overthink, probably…
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'Picture being painted of Jay Slater is just not true', says employer of British teen missing in Tenerife…


The construction company that employs missing British teenager Jay Slater has said the "picture being painted of him is just not true".

Mr Slater, from Oswaldtwistle near Blackburn in Lancashire, has been missing in Tenerife since Monday morning.

Since he went missing, rumours and conspiracy theories about his disappearance have circulated online, with social media users speculating on platforms including TikTok and Facebook.

But on Sunday, PH Build, which employs Mr Slater as an apprentice bricklayer said the teenager has been misrepresented online.

The firm wrote on Facebook: "Our Jay is still missing!

"We have decided to remove our last post due to all the negative comments and conspiracy theories.

"Jay has been with us since he left school and is liked by all. He's a valued member of our team and we stand by him.

"The picture being painted of him is just not true. The fact is he's a 19-year-old lad missing in a foreign country. He needs to be back home where he belongs. Come on Jay we are all praying for you."


…full article…

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/picture-be...113900311.html
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'Picture being painted of Jay Slater is just not true', says employer of British teen missing in Tenerife…


The construction company that employs missing British teenager Jay Slater has said the "picture being painted of him is just not true".

Mr Slater, from Oswaldtwistle near Blackburn in Lancashire, has been missing in Tenerife since Monday morning.

Since he went missing, rumours and conspiracy theories about his disappearance have circulated online, with social media users speculating on platforms including TikTok and Facebook.

But on Sunday, PH Build, which employs Mr Slater as an apprentice bricklayer said the teenager has been misrepresented online.

The firm wrote on Facebook: "Our Jay is still missing!

"We have decided to remove our last post due to all the negative comments and conspiracy theories.

"Jay has been with us since he left school and is liked by all. He's a valued member of our team and we stand by him.

"The picture being painted of him is just not true. The fact is he's a 19-year-old lad missing in a foreign country. He needs to be back home where he belongs. Come on Jay we are all praying for you."


…full article…

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/picture-be...113900311.html
there is no "picture"

that is only in the mind of the employer, id suggest they stay off social media and just concentrate on their work building stuff
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Yesterday this new photo

Was posted

At the Party before he went on the long walk.............

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i think the picture was already painted by the judge when he found him guilty
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SkyNewsHD
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asked why did he
go to the villa with two men?
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Yesterday this new photo

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At the Party before he went on the long walk.............


What is it with all these Brits going on walks then going missing ..


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They have no sense of direction, I guess.
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[Jay Slater's family hope grainy CCTV shows
missing Brit ten hours after his mobile phone last
pinged before he vanished on Tenerife - as mother fears he'll
'come home in a body bag'

British teenager Jay Slater, 19,
vanished after leaving a nightclub last Monday
Follow MailOnline's live blog
for the latest updates on the search for Jay Slater]

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'Picture being painted of Jay Slater is just not true', says employer of British teen missing in Tenerife…


The construction company that employs missing British teenager Jay Slater has said the "picture being painted of him is just not true".

Mr Slater, from Oswaldtwistle near Blackburn in Lancashire, has been missing in Tenerife since Monday morning.

Since he went missing, rumours and conspiracy theories about his disappearance have circulated online, with social media users speculating on platforms including TikTok and Facebook.

But on Sunday, PH Build, which employs Mr Slater as an apprentice bricklayer said the teenager has been misrepresented online.

The firm wrote on Facebook: "Our Jay is still missing!

"We have decided to remove our last post due to all the negative comments and conspiracy theories.

"Jay has been with us since he left school and is liked by all. He's a valued member of our team and we stand by him.

"The picture being painted of him is just not true. The fact is he's a 19-year-old lad missing in a foreign country. He needs to be back home where he belongs. Come on Jay we are all praying for you."


…full article…

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/picture-be...113900311.html
It's complicated of course - all of these things can be true, people are complex and have different aspects of themselves, the kid they know at work can be a completely different person to who he is at the weekend, who can be different again to the son that the parents know, etc. etc. no one version of a person is more "the real person" than another.

Ultimately I do think what has happened is that he's gotten himself involved with some very dodgy goings on - Tenerife has a HUGE problem with organised crime/cartel-style drug dealing, a very dark underbelly - but TBH I also take the employers point that this is just a 19 year old kid at the end of the day, who has some terrible actions in his past and very probably some dangerous and reckless goings on more recently too, but at 19 you can't really say what life might have had in store for him. I don't think it's right to make light of (or in some cases I've seen, celebrate) his probable death.

Like I said before I don't think it'll be all a big fraud/scam, MAYBE he will turn up alive, but I think most likely he's been offed and won't be found. A lot of skeletons a few feet under the dirt in Tenerife.
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mother fears he'll 'come home in a body bag'
As above, assuming he is dead I think this is actually an optimistic scenario, I honestly think the trail will simply go cold and she'll never even get to bring him home. Being 99% sure that someone you love is gone but never getting the full answer must actually be worse than burying them.
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It's complicated of course - all of these things can be true, people are complex and have different aspects of themselves, the kid they know at work can be a completely different person to who he is at the weekend, who can be different again to the son that the parents know, etc. etc. no one version of a person is more "the real person" than another.

Ultimately I do think what has happened is that he's gotten himself involved with some very dodgy goings on - Tenerife has a HUGE problem with organised crime/cartel-style drug dealing, a very dark underbelly - but TBH I also take the employers point that this is just a 19 year old kid at the end of the day, who has some terrible actions in his past and very probably some dangerous and reckless goings on more recently too, but at 19 you can't really say what life might have had in store for him. I don't think it's right to make light of (or in some cases I've seen, celebrate) his probable death.

Like I said before I don't think it'll be all a big fraud/scam, MAYBE he will turn up alive, but I think most likely he's been offed and won't be found. A lot of skeletons a few feet under the dirt in Tenerife.
…it’s a strange one, isn’t it …and obviously so many layers to it all is what we seem to be seeing…so far as the organised crime/drugs etc …in my own very VAST experience of these things……they seem often to be more ‘public’ …rather than a ‘disappearance’…it’s more a world of making violent statements, isn’t it….?…with his employers…?…they would surely have all details of any violent past he has in terms of the justice system…and they’ve chosen to employ him and to make positive statements about his character….so that has to be noted as well….
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A 19 year old black or Asian boy who had avoided prison for caving someone’s head in with a gang of his mates, wouldn’t be getting this much sympathy from the media, nor would his family and friends
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Some of what she says
is more extreme than what Tibb's Ammi says.


Waitrose shopping in the back of her car.





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A 19 year old black or Asian boy who had avoided prison for caving someone’s head in with a gang of his mates, wouldn’t be getting this much sympathy from the media, nor would his family and friends
To be fair though that's because the media is inherently racist, not because family and friends SHOULDN'T get sympathy when someone is missing (regardless of who or what they are).
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A 19 year old black or Asian boy who had avoided prison for caving someone’s head in with a gang of his mates, wouldn’t be getting this much sympathy from the media, nor would his family and friends

I haven’t been following this too closely at all

Is that what this kid has done in the past?

He mum and employer are portraying him as a proper nice lad !!!!??


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Last Monday he was at a Rave
ITV1HD Lunch News just showed a video of him
at that rave

But still no sign of him yet.
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Waitrose shopping in the back of her car.




…I haven’t listened to what she said but surely it can’t be THAT extreme to be on a level with my extreme views…tell me it isn’t so…

…(…I would rarely click on anything she says, though…)…
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That was funny tbf, Dominos will probably give her a gig now
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