[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

3 times today i have heard people on Talksport say how Pickford was "brilliant" in the shoot-out

he made one save from a dreadful penalty that was hit straight at him and missed all the other ones - one as a dolly straight down the middle

bollocks

Presumably the same people who claimed that we played well and it was a massive improvement


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[Vanessa]

Pickford was great in my opinion. But man of the match was saka without a doubt. The man is brilliant!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Presumably the same people who claimed that we played well and it was a massive improvement


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as in the BBC team who were told to talk up England last night to the bewilderment of anyone who watched?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

as in the BBC team who were told to talk up England last night to the bewilderment of anyone who watched?

Yeah

That was very , very strange and a complete turnaround from them


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[Alf]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

England have equalised in the last two games with two of the best goals of the tournament.

It hasnt been thru teamplay, pressing the opponents etc its the brilliance of the players that have won the games not the managers tactics.

I want England to win the tournament obviously but when the players are unable to score a great goal the exit is gonna look so lacklustre that I cant see much support for GS. Finally we'll et rid of him

I think you think too much and expect to much of us. And you underestimate every other nation.

International football isn't the same as league football. You're playing against the best 11 players of each country. And they're good players who know how to compete. It's tough.

We have never been close to being one of the best technical sides. English style has never been that way.

Some of the teams you come up against at this level can keep the ball and starve you of possession if you let them have the ball easily. I think that's the thinking behind Southgates tactics. Try and starve your opponents of possession so it lesens the damage they can do to you.

Also, a lot of team's we've come up against so far see England as a big football nation, that alone makes them raise their game and they also get men behind the ball to make it hard for us to break them down.

Maybe a team like Holland (certainly Spain or France) will play more open and give our players a bit more space in behind and we'll see a better spectacle.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Alf

I think you think too much and expect to much of us. And you underestimate every other nation.

International football isn't the same as league football. You're playing against the best 11 players of each country. And they're good players who know how to compete. It's tough.

We have never been close to being one of the best technical sides. English style has never been that way.

Some of the teams you come up against at this level can keep the ball and starve you of possession if you let them have the ball easily. I think that's the thinking behind Southgates tactics. Try and starve your opponents of possession so it lesens the damage they can do to you.

Also, a lot of team's we've come up against so far see England as a big football nation, that alone makes them raise their game and they also get men behind the ball to make it hard for us to break them down.

Maybe a team like Holland (certainly Spain or France) will play more open and give our players a bit more space in behind and we'll see a better spectacle.

Agree with most of this but I dont think England have inferior players to other nations. I think the manager is holding the team back not pushing it forward.

I want him to step up, in games, or step down as manager.

[Alf]

We still have a chance to be partying into the early hours, this time next week. If that possibility happened then your unworthy attacks on the manager will look silly.

[GiRTh]

I've said that England have a great chance to win.

I do think they will beat the Netherlands and then we can only hope.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Alf

We still have a chance to be partying into the early hours, this time next week. If that possibility happened then your unworthy attacks on the manager will look silly.

I would rather we play blindingly attractive football for a couple of games and fall short rather than playing this turged , corpse dragging football and win the damn thing


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

as in the BBC team who were told to talk up England last night to the bewilderment of anyone who watched?

My Dad was really confused by the BBC commentary.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I would rather we play blindingly attractive football for a couple of games and fall short rather than playing this turged , corpse dragging football and win the damn thing


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I feel mixed on this post.

On one hand I obviously want England to win through any means necessary.

On the other hand if England were to win the Euros this year, then it advertises to teams in all future knockout competitions to play really boring Football that sucks the life out of every game, pass backwards and sideways for possibly 120 minutes.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I feel mixed on this post.

On one hand I obviously want England to win through any means necessary.

On the other hand if England were to win the Euros this year, then it advertises to teams in all future knockout competitions to play really boring Football that sucks the life out of every game, pass backwards and sideways for possibly 120 minutes.

Yep.

This sums it up

Apologies for posting this again



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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Yep.

This sums it up

Apologies for posting this again



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I don't care if you post it again, it's funny.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its NOT coming home and that is a fact


here is why

Spoiler:

England have never won the Euros so it cant "come home"

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its NOT coming home and that is a fact


here is why

Spoiler:

England have never won the Euros so it cant "come home"

It might "come home" because we invented it, smartarse.

[bots]

we didn't invent the euros

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

It might "come home" because we invented it, smartarse.

10 points from Gryffindor

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

we didn't invent the euros

No, no... Football as well you know mister.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

10 points from Gryffindor

Can a Hufflepuff take points off a Gryffindor?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I don't care if you post it again, it's funny.

Well until we start passing forwards its still relevant

LOL


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[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Yeah

That was very , very strange and a complete turnaround from them


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Baffling considering BBC dont have the rights to the qualifiers and friendlies and are unlikely to get them any time soon.

[bots]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Baffling considering BBC dont have the rights to the qualifiers and friendlies and are unlikely to get them any time soon.

they get access to the squad for interviews etc. They will have been told to start talking positive or the players wont be made available

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they get access to the squad for interviews etc. They will have been told to start talking positive or the players wont be made available

Its all a bit tit for tat.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well until we start passing forwards its still relevant

LOL


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Passing backwards and we've still scored more goals in open play than France.

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