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If they nuke Palestine, they will get the shock waves (which could kill millions) in Israel
They also quite blatantly consider Gaza to be (geographically) part of Israel and I imagine the long-term goal is to annex. They're not going to nuke land that they consider their own. They're also not going to (and probably literally can't) nuke anything at all without US approval.
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it all depends how threatened israel feel. Everyone is saying putin would never let lose with nukes, but the guy isn't rational, so normal rules don't apply
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it all depends how threatened israel feel. Everyone is saying putin would never let lose with nukes, but the guy isn't rational, so normal rules don't apply

It's not really the same at all as Russia/Ukraine are absolutely massive land areas, Russia can use tactical nukes in Ukraine "safely" (in terms of the bombs themselves). As DemRed pointed out though, Israel can't use nuclear weapons in Palestine without Israel itself being affected. Literally affected by the blasts and fallout.

Whether or not they'd use them against, for example, Iran... is another question.

Again though, I don't think there's realistically any chance of Israel dropping a nuke without US and European approval. They cannot continue to exist plonked in the middle of the middle east without Western support in terms of just-about-everything... if they were to take desperate action that led to Western sanction it'd be over for Israel as a state.

There's also the small elephant in the room that, as you say, it's about how threatened Israel feel by Palestine but we all know that Gaza/Palestine are realsitically no threat whatsoever in military terms. It would be like using a double-barrelled shotgun to kill a mouse.

Again, Iran on the other hand... is where it's a different story.

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it all depends how threatened israel feel. Everyone is saying putin would never let lose with nukes, but the guy isn't rational, so normal rules don't apply
Israel's nuclear program has been in violation of international law for decades. Israel isn't recognised as a Nuclear Weapons State by the NPT
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Israel's nuclear program has been in violation of international law for decades. Israel isn't recognised as a Nuclear Weapons State by the NPT
That's because they didnt sign up to the NPT. Same as India and Pakistan didnt.

So I dont think they can violate any laws. Russia however, one of the 1st to sign up are surely breaking laws by threatening to use nukes.
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That's because they didnt sign up to the NPT. Same as India and Pakistan didnt.

So I dont think they can violate any laws. Russia however, one of the 1st to sign up are surely breaking laws by threatening to use nukes.
Yep, though I think with Russia, it's a case of 'he said, she said'. MSM have been saying that Russia is threatening nukes and ten minutes later, Putins is putting out statements denying this.
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Well said Frank Chikane
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Yep, though I think with Russia, it's a case of 'he said, she said'. MSM have been saying that Russia is threatening nukes and ten minutes later, Putins is putting out statements denying this.
Israel have neither admitted nor denied it has nukes, so it's a case of he said, she said with that side of it as well as far as the NPT is concerned.
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Israel's nuclear program has been in violation of international law for decades. Israel isn't recognised as a Nuclear Weapons State by the NPT
Can these lies be deleted.
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Angry Cork Ireland

Terror supporters use CHILDREN to lead a march calling for the genocide of Jews in Cork, Ireland.

Dozens of children led a march chanting ‘There is only one solution’ as they chillingly called for the eradication of Israel.



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That's not wholly unexpected to be honest.
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Last night CH4HDnews
showed a report from Gaza

A 3 month year old baby girl
was saved from the ruble
her parents had died.

Her Aunt was there crying.

The Medics helped the baby girl
onto a clean table.
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The Left Winger Live on LBC
is now debating new UK Gaza MP's
and Labour's Problem with them.
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Last night CH4HDnews
showed a report from Gaza

A 3 month year old baby girl
was saved from the ruble
her parents had died.

Her Aunt was there crying.

The Medics helped the baby girl
onto a clean table.
Very sad. Meanwhile, Russia bombed a children's hospital. You could see the children, bald from chemo, dragging their drip stands, making their way through the rubble. When can we expect protests against this?
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Last night CH4HDnews
showed a report from Gaza

A 3 month year old baby girl
was saved from the ruble
her parents had died.

Her Aunt was there crying.

The Medics helped the baby girl
onto a clean table.
C4 ?

what a surprise...where did they get the footage from?
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C4 ?

what a surprise...where did they get the footage from?

A Doctor Filmed it for them


At least the Baby was saved.
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A Doctor Filmed it for them


At least the Baby was saved.
"A Doctor"

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So a doctor was just standing around filming injured people rather than providing them with assistance? .... yeah, right
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This is wild but sadly not surprising


Campaign Against Antisemitism
@antisemitism

“They use the Holocaust as a sort of cover.”

“It makes me very angry when people talk about the Jewish community because there’s no such thing.”

“Israel is nothing to do with being Jewish.”

Last night, Newham, Tower Hamlets and Redbridge National Education Union
hosted an event “in association with” the Newham, Tower Hamlets and
Redbridge branches of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign.

According to an online flyer for the event, the supposed conference would
include “workshops on antisemitism and anti-Zionism”.

Here is what took place.

Shocking audio here: https://x.com/antisemitism/status/1811792774007783744

And they are trying to get at children too

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Sadly over 70 have now died.


[Hamas-run health ministry says
71 killed in Israeli strike in Gaza]




[The Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza says
at least 71 Palestinians have been killed
in an Israeli air strike on a
designated humanitarian area, in an attack
which Israel says targeted
senior Hamas leaders.

More than 289 people were injured,
according to the
health ministry's statement.

The strike reportedly hit the al-Mawasi area
near Khan Younis, which the Israeli military
has designated as a humanitarian zone,
urging Palestinians to seek shelter there.

An Israeli official said the strike targeted the
head of Hamas's military wing, Mohammed Deif,
in an "open area" where there
were "only Hamas terrorists and no civilians".

Rafa Salama, the Hamas commander for Khan Younis,
was also targeted in the strike, the official said,
calling the intelligence that led to the
incident "accurate".

But Hamas said the claim that their
leaders were targets is "false"
.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyx0qdkn45eo
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No one apart from the BBC believes anything Hamas says

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Hamas’ military chief ELIMINATED by air strike in Gaza.

The IDF has confirmed Mohammed Deif, the commander of Hamas’s military
wing, and Rafa’a Salameh, the commander of Hamas’s Khan Younis Brigade,
were taken out in an airstrike in the southern Gaza Strip this morning.


Deif was one of the masterminds of the Oct 7 attack, which claimed 1,200 lives.



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Quick, hide the dollars and alcohol.


Nooooo, not like that.

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Hamas/Palestine activists have put out a list of JEWISH owned restaurants in
Montreal to boycott

It's starting to feel a lot like 1930's Germany again here in Canada and the
lunatic WOKE left is cheering this on



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