[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

The good news is Southgate's gone finally, the bad news is Potter wants the job.

To all who ridiculed the hiring of say Lampard or Gerrard, how do you feel about Potter as England manager.

My opinion, he's not the most exciting, I just hope he brings some attacking football to the national squad.

Potter's a grade above Lampard and Gerrard imo (especially Gerrard,) but he is a massive step down from Southgate imo.

My main issue with Potter is he thinks that he is a better Manager/Coach than he actually is currently, he turned down all of us that went in for him which was potential experience going into this England job down the toilet.

[Alf]

Too many cooks spoil the broth


So I've had a little analyse of why quality players ain't shining as much as you expect them too. I put it down to that you can't have all the superstar players in the same team.

Football is a team sport. Each player has the role that they're an expert of.

Now you've got two quality players, both seen as number 10s in Bellingham and Foden. They both want be the main man for their team. But they need the correct pieces around them to make them shine. When you have two members of your team that want to do the same job, then that's gonna make you weaker.

I can understand that Southgate wants both players on the field because they're both top drawer players and it takes a lot of bottle to leave a player of their quality out of the team.

So my only criticism of Southgate would be that he wasn't brave enough to choose one or the other between Bellingham and Foden.

So I'm saying that they can't be on the field together again if you want to see a more effective team.

[Alf]

I think if your playing a style wanting to keep possession then I'd favour playing foden. But if you want to play more direct and ruthless then Bellingham would be the one.

[Alf]

The only other option for me would be to play Foden a bit deeper in a central midfield role. The way Paul Scholes ended up playing after starting out as an attacker.

[GiRTh]

I think the key is in defence. The back four needs to include either TAA or John Stones. What that does is it means England play with a back four when out of possession but that changes to a three in possession with one of those two pushing up to play level with Declan Rice. Then we can play Foden and Bellingham together as eights to get the box midfield that all the top managers love. Then you can play your front three who ever they may be.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Alf

The only other option for me would be to play Foden a bit deeper in a central midfield role. The way Paul Scholes ended up playing after starting out as an attacker.

He hasn’t got the vision or the passing ability to be anything close to Scholes


The only vague similarity is Scholes couldn’t tackle and Foden is too scared to tackle !!


Have you EVER seen Foden win a tackle !!?

Its crazy that as a midfielder he never gets called out for it


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[Alf]

Originally Posted by Zizu

He hasn’t got the vision or the passing ability to be anything close to Scholes


The only vague similarity is Scholes couldn’t tackle and Foden is too scared to tackle !!


Have you EVER seen Foden win a tackle !!?

Its crazy that as a midfielder he never gets called out for it


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Agree, he doees't have that mongrel about him that Scholes had. But his balance and first touch on the ball is World class. And these days you're not even allowed to tackle anymore

You probably couldn't play him in there against a top team. But against a lesser team, he could probably dominate a game the way a Scholes or Xavi did when they were in possession of the ball.

[Alf]

And the thing about a team is. You put a player in alongside him to win the ball and then give it to him to play.

[Alf]

And you think he doesn't have the vision to play in there. He's 24. His mature and composed age is just coming up.

You learn through experience. Football is an easy game to play. If you can play it well, like he can, then it's even easier.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Alf

Agree, he doees't have that mongrel about him that Scholes had. But his balance and first touch on the ball is World class. And these days you're not even allowed to tackle anymore

You probably couldn't play him in there against a top team. But against a lesser team, he could probably dominate a game the way a Scholes or Xavi did when they were in possession of the ball.

But he’s not even a particularly good passer .. he certainly doesn’t play defence splitting passes


He has a specific skillset .. fast , good balance , great first touch


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[Alf]

Originally Posted by Zizu

But he’s not even a particularly good passer .. he certainly doesn’t play defence splitting passes


He has a specific skillset .. fast , good balance , great first touch


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He's good enough at the game to adapt.

There's no place for him and Bellingham in the same role. So he'll have to adapt to keep his place.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Alf

And the thing about a team is. You put a player in alongside him to win the ball and then give it to him to play.

Yeah he will take the ball off someone and jink in and out then maybe a give and go with a shot on goal at the end .


Just don’t see him as being that special


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[Alf]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Yeah he will take the ball off someone and jink in and out then maybe a give and go with a shot on goal at the end .


Just don’t see him as being that special


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Well then there's no place for him, because as talented as he is, he does't have that genius that Bellingham has.

Bellingham is just a more valuable player in my opinion. And the team ain't big enough for the both of them.