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Old 29-07-2024, 08:22 PM #126
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If the murdering thug is Caucasian, that detail should be released ASAP to nip racial tension and fevered speculation in the bud.
This is what is annoying me though, why are people more interested in his race than actually saying how awful it is that he killed the kids?

Would people be happier if he was a white, English guy who killed them? Will we then think that all white English guys are capable of killing kids? Do you think the families will get comfort if it was someone who was here legally who killed the kids?

The children are dead.....families have been destroyed. Fixating on his race / religion will not change that.
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The account was suspended. But this is what he wrote https://x.com/GoldingBF/status/18179...iKYn28gsg&s=19
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This is what is annoying me though, why are people more interested in his race than actually saying how awful it is that he killed the kids?
they are not, you just made it up as it suits your politics

people can be both things
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they are not, you just made it up as it suits your politics

people can be both things
Keep telling yourself that.

You have no idea what my politics are, I never disclose anything on here so please don't assume to know anything about me.
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This is what is annoying me though, why are people more interested in his race than actually saying how awful it is that he killed the kids?

Would people be happier if he was a white, English guy who killed them? Will we then think that all white English guys are capable of killing kids? Do you think the families will get comfort if it was someone who was here legally who killed the kids?

The children are dead.....families have been destroyed. Fixating on his race / religion will not change that.
Absolutely.
I was just responding to you posting "people are crazy on twitter and a lot of what is said on there is just theor to inflame and cause worry and distrust".

If that is the case, that detail would stop all that and it would be a sensible move.
I don't go on those sites so I don't know what people are saying, apart from on here.
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I think people are worried about this person being an illegal migrant because we've let in so many in the last few years and know nothing about them. They number around three times the strength of our current standing army. No one's more worried about his nationality than they are about the children who died and were injured, but the continued violence from illegals is very concerning.
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I get the feeling if he was a white national we would know by now

bit like that illegal who stabbed kids in Ireland and they kept that quiet for ages, i think it was 1 month?
that is not right, he was an immigrant but had Irish Citizenship and had been in the country for years
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that is not right, he was an immigrant but had Irish Citizenship and had been in the country for years
my bad he was an unemployed migrant on benefits and they kept his name out the media for a month
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an evil, depraved person did this atrocity today. Making comments like what colour was he, when we haven't been a white nation for several generations now, just doesn't make sense. If he was a recent immigrant, yes, that would be good to know, but again, what are people going to do if he is. Go on a rampage causing death and destruction? Stop anyone coming into the country? good luck with that. People have an agenda, and it's about time they admitted it. They want conflict with anyone not deemed white

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I think people are worried about this person being an illegal migrant because we've let in so many in the last few years and know nothing about them. They number around three times the strength of our current standing army. No one's more worried about his nationality than they are about the children who died and were injured, but the continued violence from illegals is very concerning.
Exactly. The only thing that the majority of people are in disgust with right now is that our children are being stabbed to death and the others traumatised.

That's where our anger is from. It's nothing to do with race of people.

It's actually the people facilitating this illegality where the most anger is pointed to. But that point just doesn't seem to be coming across. They're too busy on their high horse calling everyone a racist.

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This is what is annoying me though, why are people more interested in his race than actually saying how awful it is that he killed the kids?

Would people be happier if he was a white, English guy who killed them? Will we then think that all white English guys are capable of killing kids? Do you think the families will get comfort if it was someone who was here legally who killed the kids?

The children are dead.....families have been destroyed. Fixating on his race / religion will not change that.
Because there are people out there that don’t give a toss about victims of crimes, especially horrific, violent crimes like this one, they just hope that the outcome is something they can use to push their racist, white, Christian agenda, it’s sickening that it’s always the first question on peoples minds.
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Exactly. The only thing that the majority of people are in disgust with right now is that our children are being stabbed to death and the others traumatised.

That's where our anger is from. It's nothing to do with race of people.

It's actually the people facilitating this illegality where the most anger is pointed to. But that point just doesn't seem to be coming across. They're too busy on their high horse calling everyone a racist.
And this is exactly the problem. If you raise concerns you're called a racist.
I can't wait to retire and get the hell out of the UK.
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no they said from Cardiff

not born in Cardiff

unless they have updated this?

if so please provide evidence
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And this is exactly the problem. If you raise concerns you're called a racist.
I can't wait to retire and get the hell out of the UK.
Don't worry Ness, you're living in the best country in the history civilisation.

The British army is as good as it gets and the Americans are our great allies that have the braun.

Just pray for a Trump win and some sanity to return to humanity.
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Statement from Chief Constable Serena Kennedy following major incident in Southport…


It is with great sadness that today I am here to advise that two young children have died as a result of injuries sustained in a knife attack this morning.

"Nine other children have been injured, and six of them are in a critical condition, all those injured have suffered stab wounds sustained during the attack. Two adults are also in a critical condition after being injured during the incident.

"A 17-year-old male from Banks in Lancashire, who was born in Cardiff, has been arrested on suspicion of murder and attempted murder and has been taken to a police station where he will be interviewed by detectives

"My officers were called to reports of a stabbing at 11.47am at an address Southport. When they arrived they were shocked to find that multiple people, many of whom were children, had been subjected to a ferocious attack and had suffered serious injuries.

"It is understood that the children were attending a Taylor Swift event at a dance school when the offender, who was armed with a knife, walked into the premises and started to attack those inside. We believe that the adults who were injured were trying to protect the children at the time they were attacked.

"As a mum of two daughters, and the nanna of a five-year-old granddaughter, I cannot begin to imagine the pain and suffering the families of the victims are currently going through and I want to send them our heartfelt condolences and sympathies.

"Our specialist Family Liaison Officers are providing support to the families at this terrible time.

"I would appeal to anyone who witnessed anything, or who has information that could help our investigation or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.

"Anyone who has been affected by this incident, can contact our Victim Care Merseyside service for help and support.
Our hub of local, trained staff is here to provide free, emotional and practical support tailored to your needs.

"You can contact Victim Care Merseyside for help whether you have reported a crime to the police or not by calling Freephone 0808 175 3080 on weekdays between 8am and 6pm or request support online at any time at www.victimcaremerseyside.org."


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But they raided social housing for immigrants.
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"The youth, who cannot be named for legal reasons and is originally from Cardiff, moved
to the Southport area with his Rwandan parents when he was aged six."

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in a press conference, Chief Constable Serena Kennedy, of Merseyside Police, said that
while the incident was not being treated as terror-related, colleagues from counter-terror
policing had offered to assist with the investigation.


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So not an illegal immigrant then? Born in Cardiff makes him a UK citizen then? OH
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So not an illegal immigrant then? Born in Cardiff makes him a UK citizen then? OH
Not Taffy Griffiths was it?
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So not an illegal immigrant then? Born in Cardiff makes him a UK citizen then? OH
did i say he was illegal ?

the similarity to the Manchester arena bomber tho

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we have a massive problem in the UK and its time it was addressed and not excused to try and win some imaginary culture war

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So not an illegal immigrant then? Born in Cardiff makes him a UK citizen then? OH
A lot of people who committed terrorist attacks here in the UK were actually born here. We have a problem.
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