[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

we have a massive problem in the UK and its time it was addressed and not excused to try and win some imaginary culture war

Jesus wept

We have , but it's not being addressed and that's very worrying.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

did i say he was illegal ?

the similarity to the Manchester arena bomber tho

wow

Yes that's exactly what I was thinking of

[Crimson Dynamo]

The fact that the Southport stabber is not a new arrival, but a second-
generation immigrant, is worse

It means assimilation efforts completely failed

Born in Cardiff, brought up in Merseyside, and still derranged enough to stab
a nursery full of children on a whim

Despite over a decade of interactions with state institutions, he never
developed a love for those "British values" we keep hearing about


Just like the Parnell Square stabbings last year, where perpetrator Riad
Bouchaker was an Algerian who lived in Ireland for twenty years, and
stabbed three children and a school worker

Today's Southport attack demonstrates the uncomfortable truth: that
platitudes about diversity, or abundant opportunities to earn money in a gig
economy, do not make good neighbours out of new arrivals or their children


We have had too many examples now to pretend this is not the case. Too
many children have died to continue to fear causing offence

Every last foreign criminal must be sent home

Every foreign benefits claimant must have their cash flow stopped

No more must be let in, until we work out if we have admitted more
monsters like this into our midst



https://x.com/Con_Tomlinson/status/1818041187124789328

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Because there are people out there that don’t give a toss about victims of crimes, especially horrific, violent crimes like this one, they just hope that the outcome is something they can use to push their racist, white, Christian agenda, it’s sickening that it’s always the first question on peoples minds.

No one cares about the kids who were horrifically murdered and injured. Only you, Liam, right.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The fact that the Southport stabber is not a new arrival, but a second-
generation immigrant, is worse

It means assimilation efforts completely failed

Born in Cardiff, brought up in Merseyside, and still derranged enough to stab
a nursery full of children on a whim

Despite over a decade of interactions with state institutions, he never
developed a love for those "British values" we keep hearing about


Just like the Parnell Square stabbings last year, where perpetrator Riad
Bouchaker was an Algerian who lived in Ireland for twenty years, and
stabbed three children and a school worker

Today's Southport attack demonstrates the uncomfortable truth: that
platitudes about diversity, or abundant opportunities to earn money in a gig
economy, do not make good neighbours out of new arrivals or their children


We have had too many examples now to pretend this is not the case. Too
many children have died to continue to fear causing offence

Every last foreign criminal must be sent home

Every foreign benefits claimant must have their cash flow stopped

No more must be let in, until we work out if we have admitted more
monsters like this into our midst



https://x.com/Con_Tomlinson/status/1818041187124789328

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

No one cares about the kids who were horrifically murdered and injured. Only you, Liam, right.

I treat him now as a parody account

come on folks it must be?

( and im not joking to get a rise out of him, i swear)

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Heard unconfirmed reports he went into a daycare centre and stabbed children

My giddy aunt. That’s awful.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

A lot of people who committed terrorist attacks here in the UK were actually born here. We have a problem.

Kinda worrying that they feel that they have to immediately release a statement that specifically mentions his place of birth …
It suggests that we are living in a powder keg


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Kinda worrying that they feel that they have to immediately release a statement that specifically mentions his place of birth …
It suggests that we are living in a powder keg


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

…it feels as though it’s becoming a society of mob rule, tbh…social media was becoming crazy with false information and I imagine the police feel pressured to release information that they feel will calm the frenzy…

[Ammi]

…those poor, poor families and all who witnessed any of it…

…we went for a walk yesterday evening and one of the things we pass is a child play area…which in this warm weather is always quite buzzing with children/families in the evenings…yesterday evening there was no one and it felt so marked in parents holding their children close within their home…lots of parents will be feeling that atm and I imagine lots of play/social commitments being cancelled…

[arista]

Ammi it appears
LBC was right to say he is black.

Taken From the Daily Telegraph:

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Ammi it appears
LBC was right to say he is black.

Taken From the Daily Telegraph:

…the skin colour appears to be correct but I’m not sure what relevance it has in any reporting, though or to the horrific events that unfolded yesterday and what he did ….

[arista]

Nothing wrong with giving all the facts.

As that Police Chief lady
was brief.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

So he could be black

…well, you weren’t confident of those ‘facts’ yourself, Arista…and lots of false information being fabricated about those ‘facts’ so I would say that it’s hugely questionable that there is ‘nothing wrong with it’ until the information is given …what’s that saying…?..a little information is a dangerous thing…?…that’s certainly true in our world today…

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…well, you weren’t confident of those ‘facts’ yourself, Arista…and lots of false information being fabricated about those ‘facts’ so I would say that it’s hugely questionable that there is ‘nothing wrong with it’ until the information is given …what’s that saying…?..a little information is a dangerous thing…?…that’s certainly true in our world today…

Yes, yesterday,
as it was out there
it can be posted.


But now the Daily Telegraph has given a proper update
better than the brief Police.

[Ammi]

…I’m not getting into this with you, Arista or playing this game …the attacker was a UK citizen/born in Wales and from early childhood was a local resident in the Southport area…the heritage of his parents or grand parents or great grandparents etc…has no bearing on his actions or this heinous attack…

[arista]

Yes Evil 17-year-old
Killer

[Vanessa]

But a lot of people who have committed terrorist crimes in here were actually born in the UK and that's a frightening fact.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I’m not getting into this with you, Arista or playing this game …the attacker was a UK citizen/born in Wales and from early childhood was a local resident in the Southport area…the heritage of his parents or grand parents or great grandparents etc…has no bearing on his actions or this heinous attack…

To be fair we don’t know if his childhood had any impact on his actions
He could of been bullied for being different before we know