[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

J.K. Rowling
@jk_rowling


Could any picture sum up our new men’s rights movement better? The smirk of
male who’s knows he’s protected by a misogynist sporting establishment
enjoying the distress of a woman he’s just punched in the head, and whose
life’s ambition he’s just shattered.

She has zero female facial characteristics

Just like these female Judo competitors



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[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

[“I think that athletes who have male genetic
characteristics should not be admitted to
women’s competitions.
Not because we want to discriminate against
anyone, but in order to protect the right of
female athletes to be able to compete on equal terms”]


Yes Ammi

She is a Man

…this is the first I’m aware of her but she’s assigned female at birth…which she’s said was a disadvantage because female weren’t able to train in her country in the same way that males were…and in her country also, transgender isn’t allowed…/…it’s illegal…so why would her parent…/…any medical authority etc assign her as female if she was indeed sexed as male…



…I don’t understand how if she’s in any way ‘advantaged’ how she’s lost in some fights as well and at least one, a very convincing loss…(…I haven’t looked beyond her bio, to know what other losses were in terms of points etc…)…anyway, this is attracting attention and this is a good article from Time…I will just post the link because it’s quite a long article to copy/paste and I’m just going out atm…edited to say that from everything I’m reading in her country…transgendering is illegal so it doesn’t seem likely for her to have their full support in this…(…which they’ve given…)…if she was assigned male at birth…

https://time.com/7006338/imane-kheli...-women-boxing/

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Born a physical woman, she has naturally higher testosterone levels, doesn’t matter to transphobes though

XY chromosomes mean she's biologically male.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…this is the first I’m aware of her but she’s assigned female at birth…which she’s said was a disadvantage because female weren’t able to train in her country in the same way that males were…and in her country also, transgender isn’t allowed…/…it’s illegal…so why would her parent…/…any medical authority etc assign her as female if she was indeed sexed as male…



…I don’t understand how if she’s in any way ‘advantaged’ how she’s lost in some fights as well and at least one, a very convincing loss…(…I haven’t looked beyond her bio, to know what other losses were in terms of points etc…)…anyway, this is attracting attention and this is a good article from Time…I will just post the link because it’s quite a long article to copy/paste and I’m just going out atm…

https://time.com/7006338/imane-kheli...-women-boxing/

The Problem it is Private info.
what she was born as is a total secret/


Hence other nations banning Her/Him

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

The Problem it is Private info.
what she was born as is a total secret/


Hence other nations banning Her/Him

…it wouldn’t be respected as private if it was illegal in her country, which it is…but they’re very much in support of her with this ….

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it wouldn’t be respected as private if it was illegal in her country, which it is…but they’re very much in support of her with this ….

It was a live Debate On CNN HD USA


Private Information of what She/him
was born as
stays Private

[Livia]

Quite upsetting how many people support a biological male being allowed to beat a woman. All the female boxers at the Olympics should withdraw in protest. Alfie... I agree with you now, having seen some of the stuff written in here.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Quite upsetting how many people support a biological male being allowed to beat a woman. All the female boxers at the Olympics should withdraw in protest. Alfie... I agree with you now, having seen some of the stuff written in here.

This hasn’t happened as they were both female.


Pick a side guys Jesus. You are what you’re assigned at birth or not?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

This hasn’t happened as they were both female.


Pick a side guys Jesus. You are what you’re assigned at birth or not?

So you're suggesting someone with XY chromosomes could be biologically female. LOL... Okay...

[Glenn.]

Nevertheless, they have male-like blood testosterone levels, the ability to utilize the testosterone in their bodies, and XY chromosomes that are usually found in a person who's a cisgender male (i.e., assigned male at birth).


Male LIKE

but still a woman

[Gusto Brunt]

Appalling. I was filled with disgust. In fact I switched off after a few minutes.

So unfair. An utter disgrace really.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Nevertheless, they have male-like blood testosterone levels, the ability to utilize the testosterone in their bodies, and XY chromosomes that are usually found in a person who's a cisgender male (i.e., assigned male at birth).


Male LIKE

but still a woman

Look if that is True
Admin will edit the title
Ask them?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Nevertheless, they have male-like blood testosterone levels, the ability to utilize the testosterone in their bodies, and XY chromosomes that are usually found in a person who's a cisgender male (i.e., assigned male at birth).


Male LIKE

but still a woman

You cannot be biologically female unless you have XX chromosomes. Come on Glenn, this is science not make believe. Whatever someone is in their head is fine with me, be happy, enjoy their life... But someone with XY chromosomes is not physically equal to someone with XX chromosomes, they are physically superior.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

Appalling. I was filled with disgust. In fact I switched off after a few minutes.

So unfair. An utter disgrace really.

Under Official Rules
They are not permitted
to declare what her original Sex was?

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Livia

You cannot be biologically female unless you have XX chromosomes. Come on Glenn, this is science not make believe. Whatever someone is in their head is fine with me, be happy, enjoy their life... But someone with XY chromosomes is not physically equal to someone with XX chromosomes, they are physically superior.

Do you have proof she has XY Chromosomes?


Imane Khelif is not a transgender woman; she was born female and has not undergone any treatments or procedures to change her gender. In March 2023, Khelif was disqualified for failing to meet eligibility criteria shortly before her gold medal bout at the 2023 IBA Women's World Boxing Championships. The Algerian Olympic Committee said Khelif was disqualified for medical reasons. It later emerged that the disqualification was due to naturally high levels of testosterone. International Boxing Association president Umar Kremlev claimed that the DNA test results of Khelif and other athletes "proved they had XY chromosomes", however, these supposed results were never published because they weren't done, the test was about testosterone only.
Also in Algeria, transitioning is not legally allowed and is strongly prohibited by Islamic law, as a conservative Islamic country.

[arista]

"Imane Khelif is not a"


No Glenn She has gone past all that stage
so She/He can win.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by arista

"Imane Khelif is not a"


No Glenn She has gone past all that stage
so She/He can win.

Nope

[arista]

Every Nation will use whatever
they can, to Win Gold Medals

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Trueee, twisting themselves in knots to justify their bigotry

Then what's the business about failing a 'gender test ' ? .

Calling people "bigots" because they don't agree with you ,is so tiresome honestly * sigh* .

I even said ...if she's actually female then I'll hold my hands up for being wrong,as biological strong women get wrongly
misgendered aswell.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Then what's the business about failing a 'gender test ' ? .

Calling people "bigots" because they don't agree with you ,is so tiresome honestly * sigh* .

I even said ...if she's actually female then I'll hold my hands up for being wrong,as biological strong women get wrongly
misgendered aswell.

She had higher levels of testosterone than the average woman. The XY chromosome story seems to be a load of crap as there’s been no actual evidence to prove this.

She failed a testosterone test which is the test they give her. No chromosome tests

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Do you have proof she has XY Chromosomes?


Imane Khelif is not a transgender woman; she was born female and has not undergone any treatments or procedures to change her gender. In March 2023, Khelif was disqualified for failing to meet eligibility criteria shortly before her gold medal bout at the 2023 IBA Women's World Boxing Championships. The Algerian Olympic Committee said Khelif was disqualified for medical reasons. It later emerged that the disqualification was due to naturally high levels of testosterone. International Boxing Association president Umar Kremlev claimed that the DNA test results of Khelif and other athletes "proved they had XY chromosomes", however, these supposed results were never published because they weren't done, the test was about testosterone only.
Also in Algeria, transitioning is not legally allowed and is strongly prohibited by Islamic law, as a conservative Islamic country.

Let's see how this pans out. It'll save me saying things you'll just refuse to believe.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Let's see how this pans out. It'll save me saying things you'll just refuse to believe.

I asked for proof of what you were saying? Like actual evidence…

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

XY chromosomes mean she's biologically male.

Liam knows this he just likes throwing the word bigot around and telling everyone else they are gullible

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I asked for proof of what you were saying? Like actual evidence…

did you provide proof he was a woman?


asking for a friend

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

did you provide proof he was a woman?


asking for a friend

Don’t need to. I’m not disputing her sex