[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…nice to see more of a ‘people’s voice’ without the violence and destruction…

Sure.

Nothing Solved.
Angry Poor Still Angry




Sign Of The Times.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure.

Nothing Solved.
Angry Poor Still Angry




Sign Of The Times.

…there wasn’t anything to ‘solve’ with the riots and violence…they weren’t looking for solving …

[Cherry Christmas]

Thankfully a peaceful night and hopefully that is an end to it now

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Thankfully a peaceful night and hopefully that is an end to it now

I think a group with a certain mindset who deeply believed themselves to be "the silent majority" discovered that in this case, they were absolutely not. As soon as the illusion of safety in numbers was shattered most scurried back under the rug.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I think a group with a certain mindset who deeply believed themselves to be "the silent majority" discovered that in this case, they were absolutely not. As soon as the illusion of safety in numbers was shattered most scurried back under the rug.

I think as well the idea that 3 people who were walking the streets on Saturday are now locked up for 3 years or so, no bail, no waiting for a court date, go straight to jail monopoly style will have impacted as well

[Ammi]

…I’m not sure this will be the end of it, as it were…because what remains is that So much in the way of public services etc have been eroded by our governments and their failure to address or invest…so while that continues…(…which it will…)…it leaves that ‘persuasion’ that it’s immigration related and responsible and the government scream now but they allow that redirection onto immigration because it serves themselves to do so …anyway, though…these riots were led and incited by a different beast of hate entirely…

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I’m not sure this will be the end of it, as it were…because what remains is that So much in the way of public services etc have been eroded by our governments and their failure to address of invest…so while that continues…(…which it will…)…it leaves that ‘persuasion’ that it’s immigration related and responsible and the government scram now but they allow that redirection onto immigration because it serves themselves to do so …anyway, though…these riots were led and incited by a different beast of hate entirely…

well I would hope the government will now get on with the job of processing the asylum claims, and being seen to clamp down on illegal entry, that will take some of the heat out of it

[Ammi]

…I’m not sure that it will ‘take the heat out of it’ because the violence/destruction of the rioting wasn’t about immigration imo…any more than it was about the heinous slaughter in Southport…from the very first ‘attack’ it was attacking an established mosque so it was very much representing a completely different beast to any immigration concerns etc…

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

well I would hope the government will now get on with the job of processing the asylum claims, and being seen to clamp down on illegal entry, that will take some of the heat out of it

Admirable optimism


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I’m not sure this will be the end of it, as it were…because what remains is that So much in the way of public services etc have been eroded by our governments and their failure to address of invest…so while that continues…(…which it will…)…it leaves that ‘persuasion’ that it’s immigration related and responsible and the government scram now but they allow that redirection onto immigration because it serves themselves to do so …anyway, though…these riots were led and incited by a different beast of hate entirely…

Exactly


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[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I think a group with a certain mindset who deeply believed themselves to be "the silent majority" discovered that in this case, they were absolutely not. As soon as the illusion of safety in numbers was shattered most scurried back under the rug.

And the Football is starting back up soon.

These people care about their favourite Football teams more than any Political opinions that they might hold, thankfully in this case as it might stop the attacks.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Thankfully a peaceful night and hopefully that is an end to it now

We can only hope !!

We are very close to Bolton ( thankfully surrounded by glorious countryside) but we had police helicopters overhead last night and some kind of sirens at 3 am


I feared the worst but have heard nothing thus far ..

The snag is that it there’s an awful lot of damage been done ( not just property) so it could all kick off again at the slightest thing , I fear


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[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…there wasn’t anything to ‘solve’ with the riots and violence…they weren’t looking for solving …

Starmer has to solve the illegal migrants


Ammi - are you aware of what they shout

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by arista

Starmer has to solve the illegal migrants


Ammi - are you aware of what they shout

Yes it needs addressing. Definitely.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Yes it needs addressing. Definitely.

Good you understand it fully

Sad Ammi does not know

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by arista

Good you understand it fully

Sad Ammi does not know

We just don't have the resources for this. How many can we take? It's all on the taxpayers backs.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

We just don't have the resources for this. How many can we take? It's all on the taxpayers backs.

Yes PM Starmer
must adrees this


In Northern Ireland, their Parliament was recalled
to debate their problems

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Good you understand it fully

Sad Ammi does not know

…Ammi does absolutely know and understand it fully, Arista…these riots have not been about immigration…if they had then then existing mosques would not have been some of the targets …and apparently they were sparked by a heinous act that was from someone who wasn’t an immigrant so there is no link/connection there either…that some public have/are expressing concerns about immigration is something that is entirely separate from the actions in the riots….

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…Ammi does absolutely know and understand it fully, Arista…these riots have not been about immigration…if they had then then existing mosques would not have been some of the targets …and apparently they were sparked by a heinous act that was from someone who wasn’t an immigrant so there is no link/connection there either…that some public have/are expressing concerns about immigration is something that is entirely separate from the actions in the riots….

Spot on Ammi.

You do realise the only people who THINK they know are those against immigration.
I stress THINk they know.

You are right.

These riots in the main started on a blatant lie and misinformation of the identity of the murderer.
Sparked this off from hate towards Muslims by those organising these riots and supporting them.
Whether in person or from their armchairs.

These are in the bigger part racist riots.
Using bits of other immigration as another warped justification for going out and rioting.

Mob rule must NEVER be supported by anyone.
Or by deflection, or justification of same for violence against communities residencies and other human beings.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…Ammi does absolutely know and understand it fully, Arista…these riots have not been about immigration…if they had then then existing mosques would not have been some of the targets …and apparently they were sparked by a heinous act that was from someone who wasn’t an immigrant so there is no link/connection there either…that some public have/are expressing concerns about immigration is something that is entirely separate from the actions in the riots….

There were alot of others standing back
So it was not one issue alone
this is what you miss, sadly


Was debated on GMBHD itv with 3 Ex MP's
Early this morning,