[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by arista

No the Left Wingers Protect him

Originally Posted by joeysteele

.... but it's only the last 4 weeks you feel the need to get so public about it.

Interesting.

Fair enough

I think you'll find that's gone on for a good while.
I recall a soldier bless him getting attacked by people with weapons.
13 years ago.!!!
There's been rising crime of knife crime and carrying knives over the last 10 years plus and even long before.

It's not ALL just asylum seekers and immigrants carrying knives and committing violence.
It's just odd how in the last 4/5 weeks some have decided to support those against immigration, plus will justify even in the thinnest veiled way, these criminal rioters.
Allowing immigrants to be blamed for it ALL.

Then to even try to blame the sitting PM, government and police even by wrongly saying they commit differing policing policy.
Just again now in these last 45 weeks .

Yet you even quote as far back to the IRA too.
So it's gone on for a lot longer than the last 4/5 ekks or the 10 years + I indicated.
Carrying weapons has gone on for many decades really not just the last one.
Certainly NOT just in the last 4/5 weeks, that's a fact.

Well I didn't think it would get this bad.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Well I didn't think it would get this bad.

I'll leave you with that thought.

Only in the last 4/5; weeks.????
I'll have to try to find a thought process of my own to see the fairness of that.
I doubt I will find it however.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

you do know ur sharing a link from ubermoron Laurence Fox


surprises me that he isn't currently leading the pack of far right thug protesters since he still has the time to post this propaganda on his X account

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I'll leave you with that thought.

Only in the last 4/5; weeks.????
I'll have to try to find a thought process of my own to see the fairness of that.
I doubt I will find it however.

I've been here for a long time and I've always felt safe. But not lately.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I've been here for a long time and I've always felt safe. But not lately.

Most of us have been here a long time.

Myself over 32 years now.since being born
Others have been here far longer.
However we don't single out immigration or immigrants for the crimes across the Country.
No way.

[Vanessa]

I can't support someone calling for people's beheadings.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Most of us have been here a long time.

Myself over 32 years now.since being born
Others have been here far longer.
However we don't single out immigration or immigrants for the crimes across the Country.
No way.

They're not the only ones to blame. But they aren't innocent either.
Plenty of criminals in all communities.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

They're not the only ones to blame. But they aren't innocent either.
Plenty of criminals in all communities.

You are only on about stopping immigrants though.

You're saying they're the sector that have to be controlled.
Moreso because of rising crime or stagnant crime in the UK.

What is the actual percentage of violent cime in the UK that has been proven to be only committed by immigrants.
As opposed to the homegrown population of the UK committing violent crime.
That you're heading your now view in these last weeks that immigration needs controlling to stop violent crimes

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You are only on about stopping immigrants though.

You're saying they're the sector that have to be controlled.
Moreso because of rising crime or stagnant crime in the UK.





What is the actual percentage of violent cime in the UK that has been proven to be only committed by immigrants.
As opposed to the homegrown population of the UK committing violent crime.
That you're heading your now view in these last weeks that immigration needs controlling to stop violent crimes

Immigration definitely needs to be controlled. No one is checking who they are when they come over. That can't be a good thing?
Fair enough if you don't agree. We don't have to agree.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You are only on about stopping immigrants though.

You're saying they're the sector that have to be controlled.
Moreso because of rising crime or stagnant crime in the UK.

What is the actual percentage of violent cime in the UK that has been proven to be only committed by immigrants.
As opposed to the homegrown population of the UK committing violent crime.
That you're heading your now view in these last weeks that immigration needs controlling to stop violent crimes

i doubt its only immigrants committing violent crime in the UK


pretty sure you also have some british people among crime underworld leaders

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You are only on about stopping immigrants though.

You're saying they're the sector that have to be controlled.
Moreso because of rising crime or stagnant crime in the UK.

What is the actual percentage of violent cime in the UK that has been proven to be only committed by immigrants.
As opposed to the homegrown population of the UK committing violent crime.
That you're heading your now view in these last weeks that immigration needs controlling to stop violent crimes

I don't think Vanessa wants immigration to stop as such , it's more about controlling it . You can tell this government and the Tories didn't have a clue ,we had 15 years of people like Boris,May , Cameron ,( the least said about the embarrassment that was Truss the better) ,Sunak etc ...and all of them have stumbled through and made a mess of it.

Starmer hasn't got a clue, and I'm talking about running this country in general ...not just the whole ' immigration thing '. He looks lost .

And for years like you've said yes knife crime has been a problem, especially in London which seems to be stab central, I remember when Brooke Kinsella was trying to raise awareness of knife crime ...after her brother was tragically killed,and look. How many years ago that was. So it's always been a major problem,and back them there was alot of teens randomly attacking eachother .

But something very wrong is happening....as crime seems to be going up ,which I predicted would.

And of course all sorts of people are committing crimes,it will be foolish and ignorant to only think it's minorities doing it . I think some people are just concerned ...and I'm not talking about people like Fox & Hopkins ( just to name a few) who just enjoy adding more petrol to the flames for a reaction,and they offer no hope to people.

But I think people out there have valid arguments against both government Labour & Cons, people are still very much wanting to know about important stuff like NHS appointments, and now there's the winter fuel that labour has scrapped which has upset people.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Most of us have been here a long time.

Myself over 32 years now.since being born
Others have been here far longer.
However we don't single out immigration or immigrants for the crimes across the Country.
No way.

I think they committ a disproportional amount of crimes tbh - especially serious sexual/ violent crimes and acts of terror


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[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I think they committ a disproportional amount of crimes tbh - especially serious sexual/ violent crimes and acts of terror


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I don't know what the full stats are,but like I said anyone with common sense knows it isn't just minorities or asylum seekers committing crimes. But I also don't see issue with wanting there to be more safety checks done .

Recently we've been hearing about crime happening from different people, the 17 year old Southport killer...was born here . Now there's talk of a link with the Taylor swift terror threat/ radicalism in Austria,I think it's just a coincidence. But it still makes us wonder what possessed a guy to go out and murder innocent children. Maybe we'll never find out .