[Kate!]

Originally Posted by OnTheRight

A band called Booze & Glory.
A Oi/Skinhead band.
Seen them a few times now.

Have a great night.

[OnTheRight]

Originally Posted by Kate!

Have a great night.

Thank you Kate.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

Get well soon, I think I'm getting tonsillitis but I'm hoping I'm wrong.

Thanks, do you get often? My daughter got hers out last year because she got it so often.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Called in sick, blinked and the day flashed by. And I watched another Menendez documentary. Free them!

Oh I need to watch this to cleanse that awful Monsters show about them

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Thanks, do you get often? My daughter got hers out last year because she got it so often.

I used to get sick with it about twice a year but haven't had it since before covid. I've thought about getting mine out too!

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

I used to get sick with it about twice a year but haven't had it since before covid. I've thought about getting mine out too!

Have it done Jess. My brother used to suffer terribly as a child until he had the op.

[Vanessa]

Nothing. Tuesdays are for relaxing

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Nothing. Tuesdays are for relaxing

I'm having a toffee latte

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh I need to watch this to cleanse that awful Monsters show about them

Yes it was terrible. Ryan Murphy took too many liberties. I had to cross reference with facts. These boys break my heart

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…is that the Netflix documentary’s that you’re watching, Ceecee…?…I haven’t got round to watching that yet after the drama series …

Evening, Ammi.

I watched the documentary yes. That was after watching Monsters. Monsters was over the top. I would not recommend that someone watches that alone. Def need to watch something else after monsters so I am glad that Netflix did that by adding real life docs

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Evening, Ammi.

I watched the documentary yes. That was after watching Monsters. Monsters was over the top. I would not recommend that someone watches that alone. Def need to watch something else after monsters so I am glad that Netflix did that by adding real life docs

…I’m definitely going to catch up with the documentary, I just haven’t got round to it yet…I have to say that I wasn’t aware of the brothers or their story before the drama so at least it’s highlighted their case but yes….i feel that they were very badly represented and none of their abuse was allowed to be mentioned in court in the second trial..

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I’m definitely going to catch up with the documentary, I just haven’t got round to it yet…I have to say that I wasn’t aware of the brothers or their story before the drama so at least it’s highlighted their case but yes….i feel that they were very badly represented and none of their abuse was allowed to be mentioned in court in the second trial..

It's true. A lot of the evidence was not included in the second trial.


Their case was a bit of a trial by media type. The media portrayed them as money hungry kids who killed their parents for money. I didn't follow it in real time but when I heard about them growing up that was the version I believed. So sad that at the time abuse of boys wasn't considered to be serious. If they had been tried now, they def would not have gotten life.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

It's true. A lot of the evidence was not included in the second trial.


Their case was a bit of a trial by media type. The media portrayed them as money hungry kids who killed their parents for money. I didn't follow it in real time but when I heard about them growing up that was the version I believed. So sad that at the time abuse of boys wasn't considered to be serious. If they had been tried now, they def would not have gotten life.

…I won’t get a chance to watch the documentary before the weekend or early next week but I’m interested in seeing how much of the dramatised version is completely false and sensationalised for effect rather than truth…

[Kate!]

I've just voted x 5 to get Dean out.

Job done.

[Maru]

Not much. We had to put my oldest pup down several days ago. It was not a shock she was sick as she is within that age range and some signs I was noticing, but shocking considering how quick it all happened. She had laid down after coming home with us and didn't want to move. Breathing was elevated and when I checked gums, they were white, so dangerously anemic and blood loss somewhere. They did ultrasound and found apparent hermangiosarcoma (a very aggressive blood vessel cancer) which had done massive damage already to her spleen, possibly liver, the sac around her heart had fluid likely from the spread and between that and fluid in lungs (+blood loss) making it very difficult to get oxygen. The spleen tumor ruptured into her adomen which caused anemia and it's almost impossible to catch on screens with the quickness of it. She was so critical that hospice/EU at home wasn't an option.

The blessing is she lived her last days perfectly fine with her happy family, playing normally, rushing after squirrels, eating well. Most of her signs could have been just as easily age, but some I knew well enough were signaling the end was nearer than not. In fact this week I meant to take her in early for her annual to do major bloodwork. I am having a harder time than I thought I would ever have being with illness I am typically very logical, but I guess seeing as she was a special needs baby in her own way.. highly neurotic and major separation anxiety.. and was such a huge part of our happy lives, I am having a hard time. Even the home we chose to live in was partially to cater to her unique needs. A big yard to play in which feels so empty without her. Her end was so very peaceful and it is everything we wished for her, that she did not have to endure stressful medical hospice or extensive separation/vet anxiety, but it just feels like so much is missing from our lives... even if I was mentally prepared, I certainly wasn't ready.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Maru

Not much. We had to put my oldest pup down several days ago. It was not a shock she was sick as she is within that age range and some signs I was noticing, but shocking considering how quick it all happened. She had laid down after coming home with us and didn't want to move. Breathing was elevated and when I checked gums, they were white, so dangerously anemic and blood loss somewhere. They did ultrasound and found apparent hermangiosarcoma (a very aggressive blood vessel cancer) which had done massive damage already to her spleen, possibly liver, the sac around her heart had fluid likely from the spread and between that and fluid in lungs (+blood loss) making it very difficult to get oxygen. The spleen tumor ruptured into her adomen which caused anemia and it's almost impossible to catch on screens with the quickness of it. She was so critical that hospice/EU at home wasn't an option.

The blessing is she lived her last days perfectly fine with her happy family, playing normally, rushing after squirrels, eating well. Most of her signs could have been just as easily age, but some I knew well enough were signaling the end was nearer than not. In fact this week I meant to take her in early for her annual to do major bloodwork. I am having a harder time than I thought I would ever have being with illness I am typically very logical, but I guess seeing as she was a special needs baby in her own way.. highly neurotic and major separation anxiety.. and was such a huge part of our happy lives, I am having a hard time. Even the home we chose to live in was partially to cater to her unique needs. A big yard to play in which feels so empty without her. Her end was so very peaceful and it is everything we wished for her, that she did not have to endure stressful medical hospice or extensive separation/vet anxiety, but it just feels like so much is missing from our lives... even if I was mentally prepared, I certainly wasn't ready.

So sad

Hugz


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[Maru]

Originally Posted by Zizu

So sad

Hugz


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Thank you Zizu Our animals are our family. Treasure every moment is all I can say.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Maru

Not much. We had to put my oldest pup down several days ago. It was not a shock she was sick as she is within that age range and some signs I was noticing, but shocking considering how quick it all happened. She had laid down after coming home with us and didn't want to move. Breathing was elevated and when I checked gums, they were white, so dangerously anemic and blood loss somewhere. They did ultrasound and found apparent hermangiosarcoma (a very aggressive blood vessel cancer) which had done massive damage already to her spleen, possibly liver, the sac around her heart had fluid likely from the spread and between that and fluid in lungs (+blood loss) making it very difficult to get oxygen. The spleen tumor ruptured into her adomen which caused anemia and it's almost impossible to catch on screens with the quickness of it. She was so critical that hospice/EU at home wasn't an option.

The blessing is she lived her last days perfectly fine with her happy family, playing normally, rushing after squirrels, eating well. Most of her signs could have been just as easily age, but some I knew well enough were signaling the end was nearer than not. In fact this week I meant to take her in early for her annual to do major bloodwork. I am having a harder time than I thought I would ever have being with illness I am typically very logical, but I guess seeing as she was a special needs baby in her own way.. highly neurotic and major separation anxiety.. and was such a huge part of our happy lives, I am having a hard time. Even the home we chose to live in was partially to cater to her unique needs. A big yard to play in which feels so empty without her. Her end was so very peaceful and it is everything we wished for her, that she did not have to endure stressful medical hospice or extensive separation/vet anxiety, but it just feels like so much is missing from our lives... even if I was mentally prepared, I certainly wasn't ready.

…I’m so very, very sorry, Maru……no matter how logical we are and I know that you are, we all see that…our hearts also logically attach to those animal pets who have also formed such a big part of our family….as much as we’ve cared for them, they’ve also been there through many of our difficult times also and have been a huge comfort in our lives…they are just so much cherished …I’m glad that her end was peaceful but we can never prepare for losing a much loved part of our family…we grieve because we love…I’m really so sorry……

[OnTheRight]

Originally Posted by Maru

Not much. We had to put my oldest pup down several days ago. It was not a shock she was sick as she is within that age range and some signs I was noticing, but shocking considering how quick it all happened. She had laid down after coming home with us and didn't want to move. Breathing was elevated and when I checked gums, they were white, so dangerously anemic and blood loss somewhere. They did ultrasound and found apparent hermangiosarcoma (a very aggressive blood vessel cancer) which had done massive damage already to her spleen, possibly liver, the sac around her heart had fluid likely from the spread and between that and fluid in lungs (+blood loss) making it very difficult to get oxygen. The spleen tumor ruptured into her adomen which caused anemia and it's almost impossible to catch on screens with the quickness of it. She was so critical that hospice/EU at home wasn't an option.

The blessing is she lived her last days perfectly fine with her happy family, playing normally, rushing after squirrels, eating well. Most of her signs could have been just as easily age, but some I knew well enough were signaling the end was nearer than not. In fact this week I meant to take her in early for her annual to do major bloodwork. I am having a harder time than I thought I would ever have being with illness I am typically very logical, but I guess seeing as she was a special needs baby in her own way.. highly neurotic and major separation anxiety.. and was such a huge part of our happy lives, I am having a hard time. Even the home we chose to live in was partially to cater to her unique needs. A big yard to play in which feels so empty without her. Her end was so very peaceful and it is everything we wished for her, that she did not have to endure stressful medical hospice or extensive separation/vet anxiety, but it just feels like so much is missing from our lives... even if I was mentally prepared, I certainly wasn't ready.

So sorry for your loss.

[Kate!]

Sorry Maru.

Sleep tight with the angels little doggie.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Maru

Not much. We had to put my oldest pup down several days ago. It was not a shock she was sick as she is within that age range and some signs I was noticing, but shocking considering how quick it all happened. She had laid down after coming home with us and didn't want to move. Breathing was elevated and when I checked gums, they were white, so dangerously anemic and blood loss somewhere. They did ultrasound and found apparent hermangiosarcoma (a very aggressive blood vessel cancer) which had done massive damage already to her spleen, possibly liver, the sac around her heart had fluid likely from the spread and between that and fluid in lungs (+blood loss) making it very difficult to get oxygen. The spleen tumor ruptured into her adomen which caused anemia and it's almost impossible to catch on screens with the quickness of it. She was so critical that hospice/EU at home wasn't an option.

The blessing is she lived her last days perfectly fine with her happy family, playing normally, rushing after squirrels, eating well. Most of her signs could have been just as easily age, but some I knew well enough were signaling the end was nearer than not. In fact this week I meant to take her in early for her annual to do major bloodwork. I am having a harder time than I thought I would ever have being with illness I am typically very logical, but I guess seeing as she was a special needs baby in her own way.. highly neurotic and major separation anxiety.. and was such a huge part of our happy lives, I am having a hard time. Even the home we chose to live in was partially to cater to her unique needs. A big yard to play in which feels so empty without her. Her end was so very peaceful and it is everything we wished for her, that she did not have to endure stressful medical hospice or extensive separation/vet anxiety, but it just feels like so much is missing from our lives... even if I was mentally prepared, I certainly wasn't ready.

Sorry Maru

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I’m so very, very sorry, Maru……no matter how logical we are and I know that you are, we all see that…our hearts also logically attach to those animal pets who have also formed such a big part of our family….as much as we’ve cared for them, they’ve also been there through many of our difficult times also and have been a huge comfort in our lives…they are just so much cherished …I’m glad that her end was peaceful but we can never prepare for losing a much loved part of our family…we grieve because we love…I’m really so sorry……

Originally Posted by OnTheRight

So sorry for your loss.

Originally Posted by Kate!

Sorry Maru.

Sleep tight with the angels little doggie.

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Sorry Maru

Thanks everyone. I just needed to "get it out". I went out this morning with little one and my pup's little brother for a family walk and then to shops. It helped. Our weather is 100% clear and it hasn't been in while. The passing/developing hurricane took all our clouds away...

Hope everyone else has had a good day It's still midday here.

[Jessica.]

Up at 9, did some housework, had breakfast, got ready for the day, went out to buy kitty litter and picked up a new buggy too, saw my MIL, had a croissant in the shopping centre, transferred some pictures to my PC from my camera, chatted with my family in Ireland, cooked a meal.

[Cherie]

aw Maru, so sorry, your pup was blessed to have you

[Ray.]

Broke up with someone because I didn't love them as much as they love me and I wasn't 100% I even loved them romantically at all. This was after rushing into a very short lived relationship because I was scared of them walking out of my life completely. Rightly felt like the worst and most selfish person on the face of the planet and confirmed to myself that I am in fact awful. The only thing I have to cling onto now is the hope that I'm not completely irredeemable. And all that before 7.30 in the morning.