[Dogeatdog]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The cheek of her as well saying that he was trying to villainise her after she called him fake the night before, glad he said that too

Yep I thought this too. She didn’t really have a response to this because it was true so I’m glad that he pointed this out.

[eternal]

Originally Posted by Dogeatdog

Yep I thought this too. She didn’t really have a response to this because it was true so I’m glad that he pointed this out.

Khaled ethered her in that interaction on the sofa. I was pleasantly surprised. She's a complete hypocrite.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by eternal

Khaled ethered her in that interaction on the sofa. I was pleasantly surprised. She's a complete hypocrite.

He's 23 and showed alot more maturity and intelligence in his little toe ,than she had in her whole being. She's basically hot air of psycho babble .

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

When Ali went to nominate Khaled immunity said proudly to the person next to him that if someone ( Ali) attacks him he will retaliate harder .. is that a good look ?


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Absolutely, you don't believe in defending yourself?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Absolutely, you don't believe in defending yourself?

It just didn’t sit right as he said it


This person explains it better - especially the last sentence

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Is Khaled not proving Ali’s point with that statement “it’s hard to do good things. Everyone’s got selfish desires. God know I wanna say some **** […] If someone starts throwing daggers at me, I throw a lot harder. I’ve been nice and smiley but ….. “

#BBUK


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[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Zizu

It just didn’t sit right as he said it


This person explains it better - especially the last sentence

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Is Khaled not proving Ali’s point with that statement “it’s hard to do good things. Everyone’s got selfish desires. God know I wanna say some **** […] If someone starts throwing daggers at me, I throw a lot harder. I’ve been nice and smiley but ….. “

#BBUK


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No it doesn't

He's human,we all have a breaking point...I'm sure even Rosie would snap if she was pushed hard enough,and she's the most happy go lucky housemate in there ,they all must get angry and upset.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

No it doesn't

He's human,we all have a breaking point...I'm sure even Rosie would snap if she was pushed hard enough,and she's the most happy go lucky housemate in there ,they all must get angry and upset.

He actually said he’d been nice and smiley but. … meaning he hasn’t been showing his true emotions/feelings .

Isn’t that exactly what Ali accused him of doing?


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[GlitterUK]

I hope he continues to handle Ali the way he has done, he has showed her up for being cold and calculating. He has dealt with the matter really well. Ali is 38 and been really awful towards him.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by GlitterUK

I hope he continues to handle Ali the way he has done, he has showed her up for being cold and calculating. He has dealt with the matter really well. Ali is 38 and been really awful towards him.

He's actually proved he's more mature aswell, I'm pleased he stood up to her .

[Ray.]

Not bad for a nice boy

[AnnieK]

From what Ali said in the diary room last night about her girlfriend and family being disappointed she hasn't flown under the radar and said all the right things to stay in, she's a bit pissed that Khaled is managing to do just that and so she is going after him.

Just my take on it and I could be way off. I do wish Ali would just take a breath, stop analysing everything and try and enjoy it. She's a great housemate but she is going to ruin her own experience if she doesn't chill a little

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

From what Ali said in the diary room last night about her girlfriend and family being disappointed she hasn't flown under the radar and said all the right things to stay in, she's a bit pissed that Khaled is managing to do just that and so she is going after him.

Just my take on it and I could be way off. I do wish Ali would just take a breath, stop analysing everything and try and enjoy it. She's a great housemate but she is going to ruin her own experience if she doesn't chill a little

Loads of people online suggesting Ali may have quit last night hence no live stream


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[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Loads of people online suggesting Ali may have quit last night hence no live stream


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That will be a real shame if she has.
I don't like it when anyone quits

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Loads of people online suggesting Ali may have quit last night hence no live stream


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Ajay confirmed she hadn’t though.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

From what Ali said in the diary room last night about her girlfriend and family being disappointed she hasn't flown under the radar and said all the right things to stay in, she's a bit pissed that Khaled is managing to do just that and so she is going after him.

Just my take on it and I could be way off. I do wish Ali would just take a breath, stop analysing everything and try and enjoy it. She's a great housemate but she is going to ruin her own experience if she doesn't chill a little

…yeah, I think this take also…I’m not sure though because of her tendency to overthink so much, whether she would be able to continue and settle and chill because I don’t think she can help herself, either….but time will tell as you say…(…if she’s neither evicted or walks…)…

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Ajay confirmed she hadn’t though.

and we saw in the house live at 10.45pm

[thesheriff443]

Ali in the diary room was self indulgent waffle
I could of said all the right things and my housemates and public would of swallowed it whole because I’m that good

[Beso]

I think with Kahled, Ali has a pre conceived perception of the way muslim men are with women and she is trying in her head to justify her hatred of muslim men by nit picking at kahled and everything he says.

Anyway, I hope she walks to save us a boring interview.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

It's official
I now dislike Ali ,what ashame ...this one actually hurts as I was really hoping she'd be a breath of fresh air . And I liked how composed and intelligent she initially was.

But she's just a ice cold bitch , that conversation she had with Khaled was dreadful to the ears ,and it was the most pointless tone deaf thing.

she wasn't taking on board a word he said, she's made a snap judgement of him out of nowhere. Even when he tried apologising,she just shut him down and walked off in a very weird passive aggressive way. She's made up her mind about him...and she clearly won't give him a chance.

Does she think she's above him ? . She's stuck up and seems to have a permanent scowl on her face . If she wants to psycho analyse the housemates, maybe she should try and apply for the therapist job next time on L& L ...but somehow I think Judi James' job is safe... So Judi has nothing to worry about.

Only time I've seen Ali crack a smile is when Nathan broke wind . She really is a sour lemon .

I can understand your response, as even though I understand why Ali might have behaved as she did, on this occasion, I don’t think she handled the situation well, and I didn’t like how she made her accusations and humiliated Khaled in a very public way, even though to her, she probably perceived her behaviour as honest, genuine and direct.

If she felt this way, it would have been kinder and more appropriate to have discussed it with Khaled in a personal, rather than public setting.

I do kind of agree that her perception of Khaled has been influenced and formed with her professional head on, rather than from norms of behaviour in a social setting - the first approach of which she would find a confident and comfortable way of thinking, whilst the second would be much more difficult for her to understand. Autistic people can become quite fixated on an idea, and I feel that Ali has made a judgement of Khaled that she cannot now shake off, and which might influence her perception of everything he does in future. I don’t personally agree with her perception, or find her judgement justified.

Even though I might understand why she may have behaved as she did, I don’t believe she chose the right approach on this occasion, and I do wonder whether she might recognise that when she has had some time to think.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

and we saw in the house live at 10.45pm

True.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

It just didn’t sit right as he said it


This person explains it better - especially the last sentence

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Is Khaled not proving Ali’s point with that statement “it’s hard to do good things. Everyone’s got selfish desires. God know I wanna say some **** […] If someone starts throwing daggers at me, I throw a lot harder. I’ve been nice and smiley but ….. “

#BBUK


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It says absolutely nothing of the sort, he's saying if someone attacks his character he will do that same. Wouldn't most people stick up for themselves?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

He actually said he’d been nice and smiley but. … meaning he hasn’t been showing his true emotions/feelings .

Isn’t that exactly what Ali accused him of doing?


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That's not at all what that means, he had no reason not to be nice and smiley until someone called him fake

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I can understand your response, as even though I understand why Ali might have behaved as she did, on this occasion, I don’t think she handled the situation well, and I didn’t like how she made her accusations and humiliated Khaled in a very public way, even though to her, she probably perceived her behaviour as honest, genuine and direct.

If she felt this way, it would have been kinder and more appropriate to have discussed it with Khaled in a personal, rather than public setting.

I do kind of agree that her perception of Khaled has been influenced and formed with her professional head on, rather than from norms of behaviour in a social setting - the first approach of which she would find a confident and comfortable way of thinking, whilst the second would be much more difficult for her to understand. Autistic people can become quite fixated on an idea, and I feel that Ali has made a judgement of Khaled that she cannot now shake off, and which might influence her perception of everything he does in future. I don’t personally agree with her perception, or find her judgement justified.

Even though I might understand why she may have behaved as she did, I don’t believe she chose the right approach on this occasion, and I do wonder whether she might recognise that when she has had some time to think.

I appreciate your response Garfie

I know Ali is on the spectrum , but It also feels like she can't just accept that Khaled might just be a normal guy . She seems to be dissecting him constantly, she needs to stop analysing him .

I joked in another thread ...that if BB allowed writing tools , she'd probably be robotically nodding her head
whilst jotting down notes as Khaled is trying to get his
point across.

She may think she's giving her honest direct opinion, but the third degree she's now giving Khaled over his nomination twist - decision is just ridiculous,the guy had to choose something,and either way people would be complaining . A damned if he does & damned if he doesn't situation .

And now hearing on L& L exclusive that Ali was threatening to leave, I'm sorry it just gives me " my game plan failed " energy . I don't think she expected Khaled to stand up to her in such a strong mature way . She obviously sees him as a silly boy or something. But I think he acted alot better than she did ,he explained his reasons. And you can tell it's frustrating for him to constantly be attacked.

He was even trying to persuade her to stay , but I guess she wanted her melodramatic moment. Plus she's still running away from Khaled & dismissing him . He was trying to put their differences aside by looks of it. She's being so difficult.