[Beso]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Thanks .. I haven’t seen that for about ten minutes.

You do love a quick google search , don’t cha


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Anyway though..I think that one paragraph alone sums up perfectly how Ali is with Kahled.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Beso

Anyway though..I think that one paragraph alone sums up perfectly how Ali is with Kahled.

Entirely feasible .. no need to want to burn her at the stake for something that maybe out of her control then ??


If I had posted that paragraph in her defence no doubt you would say I was just giving her a free pass ..


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[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Thanks .. I haven’t seen that for about ten minutes.

You do love a quick google search , don’t cha


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Yeah was going to say this is from a textbook lol

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Entirely feasible .. no need to want to burn her at the stake for something that maybe out of her control then ??


If I had posted that paragraph in her defence no doubt you would say I was just giving her a free pass ..


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See...you've already convinced yourself that would happen, when you have no way of knowing it would.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Beso

See...you've already convinced yourself that would happen, when you have no way of knowing it would.

I think we both know it would , hell the whole forum knows ..


You appear to spend every waking moment predicting what Ali is going to say or do despite having no way of knowing


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[Adamw92]

Originally Posted by Maru

Ali's accusation is that he isn't being him and that he very treats people differently than how he actually feels, but no basis for that is given other than it *can* be perceived this way. I think that way of analyzing others, sadly, can apply to any one of the HMs at any given moment.

Hanah didn't say anything behind her back to others in the house and neither has Khaled, but they are both required to nominate. Both are very nice people from what we can tell but only one of them has had the misfortune of falling on the bad side of Ali.

I think it's because Khaled won't let her in to tinker with him emotionally and he knows better than to feed her and that gives her nothing to work with. That apparently drives her insane. She knows she can't use that and fair play, he had her figured out early on. That makes him a potential threat to Ali. Hanah and the other people there have fed into her complex and haven't really left her radar. I think that is why I think someone like her would be OK, even if it is unclear atm where her support is, but not Khaled...

But then that’s just your opinion of him, I can absolutely see why Ali would think that he’s putting on a facade because he does constantly look like he’s trying to say the right or nicest thing and maybe that’s just him but it feels incredibly false and I don’t see how that’s not a valid reason in anyone’s eyes because he literally comes in saying these impassioned speeches (like when he won HoH) for no reason so he doesn’t rock the boat.

Obviously people aren’t always gonna get on with everyone they meet but there’s a very clear difference in how different people speak in the house to Khaled and they manage to come across without any scrutiny and it’s because they don’t always try to be the good guy like he does.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She's making Khaled more popular and she doesn't even realise

She is indeed…I’m really liking him. Very level headed…

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Beso

Ali has peaked, she has now resorted to cartwheels and bogey talk to entertain us viewers.

.

From what I recall it was Sarah’s idea
She asked Ali if she could do a cartwheel and then encouraged her to try ..


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[Beso]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I think we both know it would , hell the whole forum knows ..


You appear to spend every waking moment predicting what Ali is going to say or do despite having no way of knowing


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Do I?

Perhaps you could quote me where I've talked about Ali in the future..

And if that's what the WHOLE forum thinks of me, well they can all bugger off as far as I'm concerned.

There only about 5 peoples opinions of me worth giving a toss about on here during off season.




So yeah, I will wait on the quote, which won't come, cause there isnt any. A bit like you posting stuff benjamin posted claiming I posted it about the live feed not being on, No reply to that once you saw it wasnt me..or when you said I was posting in the later and live programme thread, making mebrepky that I've not even opened it to read it, let alone post in it You would have checked to seeing you were right and I was wrong...but still, absolutely no reply or humble ness when you were shown to be incorrect yet again.

That paragraph applies so much to you so I will pist it again for you to read, and perhaps learn something about yourself from it.
Here it is....


People with ADHD often have very strong moral convictions, and feel a strong need to uphold them. This can make them very quick to judge others who they perceive as behaving unfairly or unjustly

So back to your bullying statement about the whole forum, do you know that for fact cause yiuve been a gossiping mary, with Kate. Or is it just more assumption from yourself?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Beso

Do I?

Perhaps you could quote me where I've talked about Ali in the future..

And if that's what the WHOLE forum thinks of me, well they can all bugger off as far as I'm concerned.

There only about 5 peoples opinions of me worth giving a toss about on here during off season.




So yeah, I will wait on the quote, which won't come, cause there isnt any. A bit like you posting stuff benjamin posted claiming I posted it about the live feed not being on, No reply to that once you saw it wasnt me..or when you said I was posting in the later and live programme thread, making mebrepky that I've not even opened it to read it, let alone post in it You would have checked to seeing you were right and I was wrong...but still, absolutely no reply or humble ness when you were shown to be incorrect yet again.

That paragraph applies so much to you so I will pist it again for you to read, and perhaps learn something about yourself from it.
Here it is....


People with ADHD often have very strong moral convictions, and feel a strong need to uphold them. This can make them very quick to judge others who they perceive as behaving unfairly or unjustly

So back to your bullying statement about the whole forum, do you know that for fact cause yiuve been a gossiping mary, with Kate. Or is it just more assumption from yourself?

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[Beso]

Originally Posted by Zizu

From what I recall it was Sarah’s idea
She asked Ali if she could do a cartwheel and then encouraged her to try ..


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Somersault, she asked if she could do a somersault..ali should have just said NO and left it there..But she had to do the most pristine and proper cartwheel I've ever had the displeasure to witness for the viewers.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Beso

Do I?

Perhaps you could quote me where I've talked about Ali in the future..

And if that's what the WHOLE forum thinks of me, well they can all bugger off as far as I'm concerned.

There only about 5 peoples opinions of me worth giving a toss about on here during off season.




So yeah, I will wait on the quote, which won't come, cause there isnt any. A bit like you posting stuff benjamin posted claiming I posted it about the live feed not being on, No reply to that once you saw it wasnt me..or when you said I was posting in the later and live programme thread, making mebrepky that I've not even opened it to read it, let alone post in it You would have checked to seeing you were right and I was wrong...but still, absolutely no reply or humble ness when you were shown to be incorrect yet again.

That paragraph applies so much to you so I will pist it again for you to read, and perhaps learn something about yourself from it.
Here it is....


People with ADHD often have very strong moral convictions, and feel a strong need to uphold them. This can make them very quick to judge others who they perceive as behaving unfairly or unjustly

So back to your bullying statement about the whole forum, do you know that for fact cause yiuve been a gossiping mary, with Kate. Or is it just more assumption from yourself?

Call it an educated guess


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Beso

Somersault, she asked if she could do a somersault..ali should have just said NO and left it there..But she had to do the most pristine and proper cartwheel I've ever had the displeasure to witness for the viewers.

You are just nitpicking now

Just imagine the outrage in here if Ali had replied “ No “ and just walked away
LOL


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[Beso]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Call it an educated guess


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The receipts you posted. What have they got to do with what Ali will say in the future?

Nothing at all, thats what..gotta leave you to it now zizu..your posts arento annoying to quote cause of your tapatalk sig...when quote you ot always misses the quote line so it's just an pain to edit it back into shape..

Enjoy your evening.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Zizu

You are just nitpicking now

Just imagine the outrage in here if Ali had replied “ No “ and just walked away
LOL


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She would have got my applause, but I cant speak for everyone.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

From what I recall it was Sarah’s idea
She asked Ali if she could do a cartwheel and then encouraged her to try ..


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Martha's idea not Sarah's

[Zizu]

I admit to being useless with names ..


I am useless at spelling names as well

Guilty as charged


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[Abra]

I'm really not sure how anyone can even defend the fact that Ali is accusing Khaled of being fake (her reasoning being essentially... "well I just think so") when out of the two of them Ali has clearly been the fakest. Every time Khaled has raised her issue with him face to face she has said "I don't dislike you, I actually like you" etc when that clearly is not true. You don't have to pretend to like him just because you realise you might be coming across as too mean.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Abra

I'm really not sure how anyone can even defend the fact that Ali is accusing Khaled of being fake (her reasoning being essentially... "well I just think so") when out of the two of them Ali has clearly been the fakest. Every time Khaled has raised her issue with him face to face she has said "I don't dislike you, I actually like you" etc when that clearly is not true. You don't have to pretend to like him just because you realise you might be coming across as too mean.

People can have an opinion without disliking someone though.

[Adamw92]

Originally Posted by Abra

I'm really not sure how anyone can even defend the fact that Ali is accusing Khaled of being fake (her reasoning being essentially... "well I just think so") when out of the two of them Ali has clearly been the fakest. Every time Khaled has raised her issue with him face to face she has said "I don't dislike you, I actually like you" etc when that clearly is not true. You don't have to pretend to like him just because you realise you might be coming across as too mean.

But her reason isn’t just “I just think so”. She literally sat him down and said it’s the way he always feels like he has to appease others by making impassioned speeches for nothing. She’s not wrong, every time he speaks it feels like he’s thinking of what he should say to look good instead of just being an actual human and saying what he really feels, it’s fake.

[Abra]

Originally Posted by Adamw92

But her reason isn’t just “I just think so”. She literally sat him down and said it’s the way he always feels like he has to appease others by making impassioned speeches for nothing. She’s not wrong, every time he speaks it feels like he’s thinking of what he should say to look good instead of just being an actual human and saying what he really feels, it’s fake.

Hmm I'm not sure, there may be some projection there I fear

She doesn't actually have any evidence of this though, it's just based on a feeling. That would be fine if she wasn't labelling him as fake behind his back.

[Abra]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

People can have an opinion without disliking someone though.

Yes but come on... she clearly doesn't like him

[Adamw92]

Originally Posted by Abra

Hmm I'm not sure, there may be some projection there I fear

She doesn't actually have any evidence of this though, it's just based on a feeling. That would be fine if she wasn't labelling him as fake behind his back.

She has conversations that she’s had or seen him have and she has been living with him 24/7, I think it’s very probable that she understands him better than us. And she’s also told him she thinks he’s fake to his face.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Adamw92

She has conversations that she’s had or seen him have and she has been living with him 24/7, I think it’s very probable that she understands him better than us. And she’s also told him she thinks he’s fake to his face.

Why does everyone base all their thoughts and arguments on the 30 minutes of selective , edited daily footage

Its just a sample taken out of 16 waking hours x 15 housemates ( 240 hours of footage potentially)


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[Adamw92]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Why does everyone base all their thoughts and arguments on the 30 minutes of selective , edited daily footage

Its just a sample taken out of 16 waking hours x 15 housemates ( 240 hours of footage potentially)


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I get why because we have to go off of what we’re shown but we should also be taking into consideration the things that may have happened off-screen too. Everyone is happy to jump straight to “she’s clearly picking things out of nowhere to go at him” all while conveniently ignoring the fact that she could have seen things that make her feel this way that they aren’t showing us.