[Maru]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Who has said that Ali's evil?

Must be mixing them up with Legendary Dark Horse, Marcello.

[GlitterUK]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Ali is 38.

Thought so, thanks.

[Mrluvaluva]

Maybe it just comes down to people's thoughts on how certain HM's views have been perceived? Both within the house and on the outside. She wasn't aggressive in her delivery. She said what was on her mind rather than bitching behind his back. It might have seen cold and calculating and I think she regrets that. In fact we know she does. She thinks she let herself down and others. Hence why she had a wobble. We sometimes forget how things are heightened in the house and how much paranoia sets in. The earlier houses were much more smaller and basically living area/kitchen/bedroom with a window through bedroom/living area and it was more like a fishbowl. Although ITV's house is so much bigger I can still imagine it's hard to get away from different scenarios, especially at this point when there's still 15 of them in there.

We can't get along with everyone in life. In the outside world we can just walk away. That's not a possibility for them. We'll it is which is why they contemplate about leaving. It becomes a hard decision.

She's not malicious in my eyes so maybe cut her some slack?

It all comes down to discussion and understanding. I think she is liked in the house by most and, yet, we know how things can change on a day to day basis. Maybe for good, maybe not....

[Zizu]

The tide maybe changing .. apparently Thomas and Azeeze have both been vocal this evening and both criticising Khaled .
Similarly Martha shared her doubts about Khaled to Lily earlier this evening



Didn’t see any of that coming at all


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[GlitterUK]

They are criticizing everyone tonight, this task really has wound them up and whatever happened with this bagel.

Looking forward to seeing is this is all Ali and her seed planting or there are some concerns about Khaled.

Either way this task sounds like an nightmare, when will they be allowed to catch up on there sleep if they are awake all night?

Just need a task for Segun next so he can come to life.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Ali is 38.

To be fair, I guess that means she would’ve been born around 1987 and that’s totally believable. I forget how old everyone is these days.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Maru

Must be mixing them up with Legendary Dark Horse, Marcello.

…Marcus Akin…?…

[Ammi]

…an interesting thing with Ali I thought with the HoH thing and with Khaled choosing Martha for the killer nomination…?…Ali was very fixated/focused on…‘why Martha, why, why, why (Delilah…)….there must have been something about Martha so what was it…’…she just couldn’t let that go as much as Khaled was saying how much he had reasoned the decision…and then flip it over to the fact that it’s a game and since the beginning of time, housemates have had ‘fake’ or similar aimed at them…?…so in a house where many hope to present themselves in a certain way…why Khaled, why single out Khaled…why, why, why (Delilah)…

…she’s not evil, she’s not bad and if she gives people the space to be themselves and make their own choices rather than the ones that she feels they should be making and all of that jazz…and if she survives this week’s eviction and becomes more positive about the house experience…a lot of ifs, I know…but if all of those came together, she could be a very interesting housemate for me…but more than anything, she could really love her experience of getting to know people ‘outside of a textbook’….

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…an interesting thing with Ali I thought with the HoH thing and with Khaled choosing Martha for the killer nomination…?…Ali was very fixated/focused on…‘why Martha, why, why, why (Delilah…)….there must have been something about Martha so what was it…’…she just couldn’t let that go as much as Khaled was saying how much he had reasoned the decision…and then flip it over to the fact that it’s a game and since the beginning of time, housemates have had ‘fake’ or similar aimed at them…?…so in a house where many hope to present themselves in a certain way…why Khaled, why single out Khaled…why, why, why (Delilah)…

…she’s not evil, she’s not bad and if she gives people the space to be themselves and make their own choices rather than the ones that she feels they should be making and all of that jazz…and if she survives this week’s eviction and becomes more positive about the house experience…a lot of ifs, I know…but if all of those came together, she could be a very interesting housemate for me…but more than anything, she could really love her experience of getting to know people ‘outside of a textbook’….

I was thinking that if Ali survives this weeks eviction vote then it would boost her self confidence - but she’s such a complex entity that surviving may have zero effect ..

I can picture the scene.. everyone sat around awaiting the result .. then I can see Ali breaking down and sobbing OR simply sat there looking all embarrassed.


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[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…Marcus Akin…?…

Ahh, the Poundland Wolverine.

That was actually a pretty good year, looking back.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The irrepressible dark horse

if you dont mind

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

They're softies.

You've got to break all of the Housemates down until you're the only one left, there's no need to feel guilty.

That's the spirit!

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by vesavius

That's the spirit!

Exactly.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by GlitterUK

I think Ali is angry at herself for playing the game wrong and choosing the wrong guy to pick on.

If she said sorry I was wrong about you Khaled at some point I would be like well done she is taking responsibility.

I think people think too deeply into things.

It's OK to not get along with everybody. The world doesn't work like that and if you were in a house with 15 other people you would probably feel the same.

They have made up but she stands by her point made. I like that honesty whether he is 'fake' or not.

She has essentially said she would like to see if she's wrong. She offered an olive branch and it was accepted

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Ahh, the Poundland Wolverine.

That was actually a pretty good year, looking back.

…he was such a caricature personality which obviously would always bring marmite opinions but he did win many fans around…

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I was thinking that if Ali survives this weeks eviction vote then it would boost her self confidence - but she’s such a complex entity that surviving may have zero effect ..

I can picture the scene.. everyone sat around awaiting the result .. then I can see Ali breaking down and sobbing OR simply sat there looking all embarrassed.


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..Hopefully Ali has put it all behind in terms of Khaled and will put any suspicions aside in favour of getting to know him and hopefully creating a bond..if she stays on Friday, hopefully as you say…she’ll move forward and try to chill and enjoy her experience more positively…because her experience is to be part of a blended group, not to stand on the perimeter and observe them etc…

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…an interesting thing with Ali I thought with the HoH thing and with Khaled choosing Martha for the killer nomination…?…Ali was very fixated/focused on…‘why Martha, why, why, why (Delilah…)….there must have been something about Martha so what was it…’…she just couldn’t let that go as much as Khaled was saying how much he had reasoned the decision…and then flip it over to the fact that it’s a game and since the beginning of time, housemates have had ‘fake’ or similar aimed at them…?…so in a house where many hope to present themselves in a certain way…why Khaled, why single out Khaled…why, why, why (Delilah)…

…she’s not evil, she’s not bad and if she gives people the space to be themselves and make their own choices rather than the ones that she feels they should be making and all of that jazz…and if she survives this week’s eviction and becomes more positive about the house experience…a lot of ifs, I know…but if all of those came together, she could be a very interesting housemate for me…but more than anything, she could really love her experience of getting to know people ‘outside of a textbook’….

As much as I like Khaled, I don't understand the 'fake' line, but I'm not in the house and we only see limited footage.

Potentially, I think it could be trauma based responses.

Whether he reminds her of someone from her past maybe

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

As much as I like Khaled, I don't understand the 'fake' line, but I'm not in the house and we only see limited footage.

Potentially, I think it could be trauma based responses.

Whether he reminds her of someone from her past maybe

Maybe her brother and she is angry subconsciously that he died and Khaled and the younger men are still alive?

[NotAWannabe]

Agree

[NotAWannabe]

Originally Posted by GlitterUK

I think Ali is angry at herself for playing the game wrong and choosing the wrong guy to pick on.

If she said sorry I was wrong about you Khaled at some point I would be like well done she is taking responsibility.

Agree

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Maybe her brother and she is angry subconsciously that he died and Khaled and the younger men are still alive?

Maybe, who knows

There is unconscious actions at play though, potentially

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Maybe, who knows

There is unconscious actions at play though, potentially

there must be as no one on here so far has been able to work out what it has been about (or on late and live)?

[bots]

all these arguments are prolonged because they know they get screen time from it. In real life they would be ended in one line ..... f off <insert favourite expletive>

Anyone that gets upset or invested in these fake arguments is being sucked into their game

[Gusto Brunt]

Ali is unbearable. For a supposed professional woman, she acts like a kid.

Seriously I don't know what her problem is, and what the hell she is talking about 100% of the time. I now fast forward when she's on.

Boring woman. I actually thinks she has a fancy for Khalid which goes against her new found lesbianism. So she makes up complete rubbish to have something about him she dislikes.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I mean, I know that she is your ride or die, so it's hard to trust you when you judge others to be 'impaired'.

Some of us simply see her game. Some of us simply don't like the way she acts.

100%, she is a crafty one imo and I liked her at first, she loves it when they are all fawning round her